Removing the rear dives axles

[Lonesome715]

It looks as though I am going to have to remove the rear drive axles of my deuce for some repairs. I want to pull them with the suspension as one unit. It looks fairly straight forward but I would still like some input. Are there any tips and tricks I should know? How can I make it as easy as possible? I know I have to support the rear of the frame and placing dollies under the four drive points would be nice. However, I am working in dirt so that adds to the challenge.

 

[wehring]

Deuce

If you want the whole assy to come out together you will need to remove the rivets. The 5 ton trucks are bolted in but the deuce is riveted. It will be MUCH easier to remove the axles w/o the suspension.

Look up bobbed deuce threads and you will find pics of the rears being pulled out as a whole. At a minimum the side plates are destroyed.

Just my .02 cents worth gained by removing 15+ rear tandems from deuces for bobbing.

Justin Wehring
979 997 3112

 

[Lonesome715]

I was looking at that, That plate looks to be a problem.

 

[hndrsonj]

There is no repair that I can think of where i'd remove the suspension as a whole. You will only make it harder.

 

[wehring]

Rivets

Not just the plate... after the plate is removed there are some bottom up rivets that go from the cavities of the suspension assy up through the bottom flange of the frame. They are **** to remove. I cut the heads off by using a long torch head in the pockets. Then I lift the rear of the frame to use the weight of the axles to pull down. The final separation is obtained by using a wedge chisel to hammer the two apart.

IF YOU USE A PNEUMATIC HOIST TO RAISE THE REAR OF THE FRAME IT WILL JUMP UP WHEN THE AXLES COME OFF!!!!!!!!! AIR IS COMPRESSIBLE SO THE HOIST JUMPS UP WHEN THE WEIGHT IS REDUCED.

Ask me how I know..

Justin

 

[Lonesome715]

I have some rust problems I found after I cleaned the chassis real well. I figured pulling the whole thing would be the simplest way to get started.

 

[hndrsonj]

I have some rust problems I found after I cleaned the chassis real well. I figured pulling the whole thing would be the simplest way to get started.

Take it apart piece by piece, don't remove rivets.

 

[Lonesome715]

Hmmmm, I may have to rethink this project. I want to adress the problems as I find them, but I have not even got this truck running yet.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Woah, slow down a little bit. Exactly what needs to be removed? You can remove the rear bogie assy without dismantling the truck. The trunnion axle bolts to the large cast pieces with 6 bolts per side. Removing these bolts, the upper dog-bones and drive shaft and brake lines will net you the ability to remove the assy. If you are working on dirt just leave the tires on and roll the whole thing out. You will need to lift the frame off the suspension a fair amount to clear everything. It's really not that bad. If you need to remove the trunnion support assy then you will have to beat rivets.

 

[Lonesome715]

The big cast piece is the main reason I want to remove the whole thing. I figured that would be a good dtime to go ahead and clean up everything else as well.

So those big bots I have been starring at will allow me to roll the whole thing out? Does that mean I do not have to cut rivets?

 

[doghead]

Pulling your axles/suspension, just to clean it, would be like pulling your engine, to do an oil change...

 

[Lonesome715]

I used clean as a generic term. There is a lot of rust and I have that sorry under coating I have to get off. When I was cleaning under the truck I noticed globs of undercoating. I did nto think much of it until I started using a high pressure water hose to clean it out. I was getting a lot of beach sand out of the crevises. Then, those globs of under coating started falling off. They sprayed the under coating over sand and gravel that was on the frame. They did not take the time to wash anything before applying the undercoating. That is why I have such a rust problem. Also, it is obviuos that truck was in a coastal enviroment and not cleaned after each use.

 

[Recovry4x4]

I've pulled one assy as a unit on a truck I parted. Granted I had the bed off but it was out in less than 2 hours it memory serves me correct. I did use air tools where possible.

 

[Lonesome715]

That sounds promising. Did you have to cut any of the rivets to get that done?

 

[Stretch44875]

I've rolled the rears out like Kenny said. Unbolting the trunion wasn't bad. Then driveshaft, brakelines, and upper torque arms if I remember right. I replaced the trunion on the M108.

 

[KsM715]

The bogey assembly IS riveted to the frame on the bottom flange. You will have to cut rivets.

I have a bogey sitting outside from the bobber project i'll go get some pics to show whatyou have to cut.

 

[Lonesome715]

Thanks, that will help me understand better. I was just under the truck looking at everything and it does look like some work. But at the same time it does not look all that complicated either.

 

[KsM715]

OK looking at it closer, you do not have to remove rivets. You can unbolt the trunion and you have to remove the upper dog bones, either at the axle ends or at the bogey end.

The one thing I question is, how much are the axles going to flop around making it hard ro re-align onceyou want to re-install everything.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Unbolt the trunnion from the cast brackets and you will not have to cut any rivets. You can ratchet strap each upper dogbone to the trunnion when you roll it out for security and the keep the ends down. I rolled mine out without strapping them down.

 

[Lonesome715]

That does make it easier to understand. So you just cut the plate on the side of the frame as well?