Gauge cluster advice/help needed

[SimonG]

Ok I was trying to remove the bolt pictured in picture 1 and some how (dont ask how please) I ended up with the picture 2. And still cant get at that **** bolt

Iv looked in here and checked a couple catalogs but not sure what Im finding. I obviously need to replace the guage cluster

Im not concerned with going back to original so that opens up some things I hope. Im having it converted to 12v and dont want digital/electronic.

I wont need the 2nd generator light and Id like to at a Tach

So 2 questions:
What are my options on where to get the replacement cluster and what to get?

What other guages should I add?

 

[dstang97]

You have to remember that the plastic is very brittle after 30 years of dry heat. I wish you would have done more exploring before ripping out your cluster. I think you need to remove your kick vent to get that nut out. You must have snapped your tack welds. On getting a new cluster they are different between military and civi. If it was me i would put it back to OEM and leave it 24v. Good proven system.

 

[jeeplvr247]

I agree with dstang, leave it 24v. There are way too many problems when people go to the 12v.

 

[jdeoliveira74]

mine is 12v I havent had to many electricial system issues... but I wish mine was still 24v

 

[SimonG]

Well the "ripping" was unintentional.
So other than trying to covince me not to convert to 12v..
Like where to get a replacement? Iv looked and cant find any mil or civilian.

 

[salt6]

Well the "ripping" was unintentional.
So other than trying to covince me not to convert to 12v..
Like where to get a replacement? Iv looked and cant find any mil or civilian.

Local pick-a-part. Pickups, blazers or suburbans will work for 12 volt. If you want to stay 24 volt save the wire trace from the back of the orginal cluster. That's what make it "military".

 

[dstang97]

Local pick-a-part. Pickups, blazers or suburbans will work for 12 volt. If you want to stay 24 volt save the wire trace from the back of the orginal cluster. That's what make it "military".

The actual clusters are different too.

 

[salt6]

The actual clusters are different too.

How so?

 

[notsosanestan]

why cant you use a extension to get the bolt out? or is there a nut on the other side that just spins?

 

[SimonG]

Its the bolt on the other side, i guess it was spot weleded and broke free. I took the vent panel off to try andreach up that way, no luck. So while I was taking stuff apart, I figured Id take teh dash aprt to clean it and the wires, when I tried pulling the cluster out, it snapped. Now I have to find a whole new gauge cluster............... and still Take the **** bolt off.
I was hoping to find a replacement cluster but no luck and havent been able to find an aftermarket option

 

[doghead]

PM hawkman, he may have one.

 

[SimonG]

thanks doghead

 

[dstang97]

How so?

Military uses idiot lights
Civi uses gauges. I found thus out when I tried to convert a civi one to military and failed horribly.

 

[topgun217]

Ok.........I got you covered on the guage cluster. I'll take a pic of it and pm you.

 

[SimonG]

Top you Rock

 

[salt6]

LMC list a printed circuit for models without gagues. So I would think it has idiot lights?

 

[doghead]

Not the same, only the mil trucks had 2 alternators. Look up the nsn in the -34P tm.

 

[SimonG]

Ok here is where it stands.
Still waiting to hear from Hawkman to see if he has a gauge cluster (or at least the back piece).
A friend is gonna try to repair the one I broke with some fiberglass....
If that doesnt work, He is going to try and get a civilain one to work. not sure how thats going to work out though

 

[Barrman]

I know you need it NOW. However, they show up on ebay all the time.

You can swap in all the military guts to a civi plastic housing. Just clean everything and test each circuit multiple times before you plug it in.

Oh, stay 24 volts. You will get much more help and information about how to fix it than if you go to 12.

 

[SimonG]

Thanks Barman,
Ill keep loking for one on Ebay while I wait. Trick will be finding one with the circuit board intact