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Hey all.
For a couple years or so, I've somewhat coveted the idea of having a Pinzgauer. I currently own a M1008 and enjoy it greatly. I always peeped at auctions online for the random postings of a Pinz here and there, but most of those seem to be less than complete-and sourcing through an importer was not something that I could financially bring myself to do. I mean, I could if I really wanted to, but I wouldn't find enough utility to justify the initial cost. The area that I live is leaves much to be desired in terms of off-roading (Northern Ohio) and overall exploring, which is what I hoped to do with a Pinzgauer...camp, explore, enjoy a few trails, just have fun driving it around, etc.
I know a guy who has owned a Pinz for 15 years or so and came to me about perhaps purchasing it. It is a 1975 710M.
He said that its been sitting for about 10 years of so, but its under a totally covered car port outside.
I had a chance to stop by and take a look at it.
The body appears to be in fantastic shape. A little rust on the edges of things, but overall, I am quite happy with it. It looks as though the body was completely replaced at one time. I can't believe something of this age has so little rust. BUT, I know to attribute that to the galvanization.
I was unable to hear it run since the carbs leak. It cranks over well and seems healthy while cranking... if that means anything. The engine looks clean and I don't see any seals weeping or any sign of abuse. It actually looks pretty good. I don't remember what the odometer said exactly, but he did say it had around 30,000 km on it.
The dash was clean, the levers moved well, seats were in good condition, floorboards were really clean (I didn't take the diamond plate off the flood, but around it looks pretty much flawless).
I am unable to drive it even if it ran because he said that a wheel cylinder may be leaking and his brake fluid level is dropping in the reservoir.
He also said that the tail lights are intermittent and may need some wiring done on them.
Tires are original Maloyas with descent tread. Levers on dashboard all move properly and don't bind. I moved them gently.
I would like to buy it, but I have a couple concerns with this vehicle and was hoping that maybe a post here with some photos could really help me decide.
Above the driver's head, the canvas has a small spot where it is worn and he said water can come in. I saw it. Its the size of a dime and its not even really a even a hole. I think that maybe a Bimini repair kit could fix that up... or maybe just some sort of resin patch. I'm not really concerned about appearances too much so long as I can make it workable. I appreciate the truck for what it is.
There is another thin area at the rear of the truck as well-over the cargo area. Again, its small. The plastic windows are hazed over and there is a cut in one of them at the rear that makes a 3" hole. I think I could patch these issues, but would certainly want to do it right. I would research that when/if I bought it.
Underneath is where my real concerns start to visualize.
I can see that all 4 axle boots have cuts and I can see oil seepage from the boots. This may indicate a worn seal oring, right? It could even just be from sitting. He said it never left any oil drips or anything from what he could recall, and I couldn't find any evidence of dripping on the ground myself. Again, all 4.
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422778&d=1366133470
There is some wetness or seeping between the cases that caught my eye. Again, I am unsure if I should worry about that or just chock it up with sitting for 10+ years. I also see some wetness at the slave cylinder... unsure as to what that could be from.
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422775&d=1366133420
He said his brake reservoir was losing fluid level and though that a wheel cylinder was to blame. However he never really traced that out to verify. I can see leakage between the booster and master cylinder. He said that he didn't lose braking ability so long as it was full. Maybe its just loosing fluid at the booster? Other than that, it doesn't look took bad under the dash. I asked if that brake line was newer or replaces and he didn't know. He was the first owner in the US aside from an importer.
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422779&d=1366133491
Here is the only photo of the floor area I snapped with my phone. This is the center area. Its not that great, buts its the best of the diamond plate that I have.
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422777&d=1366133455
It has been sitting 14 years and had old OLD motor oil and gear oil in it. Never changed more than once-the month he brought it home. Only drove it 200 miles or so since he;s owned it, he said.
It has all the tools and chains. The jerrycan. He upgraded the ignition with a Pertronix unit. It has new batteries. Apart from that, I don't know what else I could say about it.
What do you think an honest offer for this vehicle is? He told me what he wanted, then did the whole "but for you $XXXX". He is a really great guy and spent well over an hour just fielding my questions and talking to me about it. I don't think he was trying to hide anything from me or slight me. Before I left he asked me what I would offer, and that he knew that what he said he'd sell it to me for was out of the question or not as reasonable since he couldn't get it running and I couldn't test drive it. He apologized for that and asked me if I was still interested to make an offer as is, but I couldn't just yet.
He said he will include all the books with it-repair manuals (3-4 of them, in print), and some other odds and ends stuff he has for it, tools and what not.
It has the importation paperwork and was titled, so I don't think that's an issue. He said insuring the Pinz wasn't hard at all.
I'm sorry I wrote a book but I hope that someone chimes in to give me some pointers or even just their thoughts on the matter. I'd really like to have it... but I am afraid of a lot of upfront maintenance costs. I just want to have some fun with it, maybe enjoy the summer off in the woods somewhere, or just have fun putting around town.
At the very least, I could get it at a good price, fix it up and enjoy it a summer or two and just sell it. I don't want to be upside down though.
Oh, and my girlfriend thinks its cute... so that really caught me off guard. Everyone I know thinks I ought to go for it. Good vibes certainly help.
For a couple years or so, I've somewhat coveted the idea of having a Pinzgauer. I currently own a M1008 and enjoy it greatly. I always peeped at auctions online for the random postings of a Pinz here and there, but most of those seem to be less than complete-and sourcing through an importer was not something that I could financially bring myself to do. I mean, I could if I really wanted to, but I wouldn't find enough utility to justify the initial cost. The area that I live is leaves much to be desired in terms of off-roading (Northern Ohio) and overall exploring, which is what I hoped to do with a Pinzgauer...camp, explore, enjoy a few trails, just have fun driving it around, etc.
I know a guy who has owned a Pinz for 15 years or so and came to me about perhaps purchasing it. It is a 1975 710M.
He said that its been sitting for about 10 years of so, but its under a totally covered car port outside.
I had a chance to stop by and take a look at it.
The body appears to be in fantastic shape. A little rust on the edges of things, but overall, I am quite happy with it. It looks as though the body was completely replaced at one time. I can't believe something of this age has so little rust. BUT, I know to attribute that to the galvanization.
I was unable to hear it run since the carbs leak. It cranks over well and seems healthy while cranking... if that means anything. The engine looks clean and I don't see any seals weeping or any sign of abuse. It actually looks pretty good. I don't remember what the odometer said exactly, but he did say it had around 30,000 km on it.
The dash was clean, the levers moved well, seats were in good condition, floorboards were really clean (I didn't take the diamond plate off the flood, but around it looks pretty much flawless).
I am unable to drive it even if it ran because he said that a wheel cylinder may be leaking and his brake fluid level is dropping in the reservoir.
He also said that the tail lights are intermittent and may need some wiring done on them.
Tires are original Maloyas with descent tread. Levers on dashboard all move properly and don't bind. I moved them gently.
I would like to buy it, but I have a couple concerns with this vehicle and was hoping that maybe a post here with some photos could really help me decide.
Above the driver's head, the canvas has a small spot where it is worn and he said water can come in. I saw it. Its the size of a dime and its not even really a even a hole. I think that maybe a Bimini repair kit could fix that up... or maybe just some sort of resin patch. I'm not really concerned about appearances too much so long as I can make it workable. I appreciate the truck for what it is.
There is another thin area at the rear of the truck as well-over the cargo area. Again, its small. The plastic windows are hazed over and there is a cut in one of them at the rear that makes a 3" hole. I think I could patch these issues, but would certainly want to do it right. I would research that when/if I bought it.
Underneath is where my real concerns start to visualize.
I can see that all 4 axle boots have cuts and I can see oil seepage from the boots. This may indicate a worn seal oring, right? It could even just be from sitting. He said it never left any oil drips or anything from what he could recall, and I couldn't find any evidence of dripping on the ground myself. Again, all 4.
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422778&d=1366133470
There is some wetness or seeping between the cases that caught my eye. Again, I am unsure if I should worry about that or just chock it up with sitting for 10+ years. I also see some wetness at the slave cylinder... unsure as to what that could be from.
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422775&d=1366133420
He said his brake reservoir was losing fluid level and though that a wheel cylinder was to blame. However he never really traced that out to verify. I can see leakage between the booster and master cylinder. He said that he didn't lose braking ability so long as it was full. Maybe its just loosing fluid at the booster? Other than that, it doesn't look took bad under the dash. I asked if that brake line was newer or replaces and he didn't know. He was the first owner in the US aside from an importer.
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422779&d=1366133491
Here is the only photo of the floor area I snapped with my phone. This is the center area. Its not that great, buts its the best of the diamond plate that I have.
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422777&d=1366133455
It has been sitting 14 years and had old OLD motor oil and gear oil in it. Never changed more than once-the month he brought it home. Only drove it 200 miles or so since he;s owned it, he said.
It has all the tools and chains. The jerrycan. He upgraded the ignition with a Pertronix unit. It has new batteries. Apart from that, I don't know what else I could say about it.
What do you think an honest offer for this vehicle is? He told me what he wanted, then did the whole "but for you $XXXX". He is a really great guy and spent well over an hour just fielding my questions and talking to me about it. I don't think he was trying to hide anything from me or slight me. Before I left he asked me what I would offer, and that he knew that what he said he'd sell it to me for was out of the question or not as reasonable since he couldn't get it running and I couldn't test drive it. He apologized for that and asked me if I was still interested to make an offer as is, but I couldn't just yet.
He said he will include all the books with it-repair manuals (3-4 of them, in print), and some other odds and ends stuff he has for it, tools and what not.
It has the importation paperwork and was titled, so I don't think that's an issue. He said insuring the Pinz wasn't hard at all.
I'm sorry I wrote a book but I hope that someone chimes in to give me some pointers or even just their thoughts on the matter. I'd really like to have it... but I am afraid of a lot of upfront maintenance costs. I just want to have some fun with it, maybe enjoy the summer off in the woods somewhere, or just have fun putting around town.
At the very least, I could get it at a good price, fix it up and enjoy it a summer or two and just sell it. I don't want to be upside down though.
Oh, and my girlfriend thinks its cute... so that really caught me off guard. Everyone I know thinks I ought to go for it. Good vibes certainly help.