Correct trailer for a M1009

[tankie88]

After searching for this info it appears a M105 is to heavy.So i take it a M416 is the correct trailer to tow behind a M1009?

 

[dirtyfingernails]

I believe you want an M101A2 series trailer. Also an M116A2. These are 3/4 to 1 ton trailers that would tow nicely behind your CUCV. Others may correct me if I am wrong.

 

[ETBaals]

M416

The M416 is the correct trailer for the M1009.
The way the hitches are set up on thee Blazers is very weak. It is only a 1 inch hollow metal bar and the rear bumper that hold the pintle on. When the M1009 first came out the army had a lot of problems with the rear bumpers being ripped off. If you check the specks, i believe the max tongue wieght is only 200 lbs and max towed is 1200lbs.
If you want to tow heavier, put a class 3 hitch on.
Ernie

 

[BKubu]

I second Ernie's post. If you check the manual, the M1009 is not supposed to pull an M101. That does not stop many people from doing so, however. Still, if you want a tow vehicle, buy a civilian truck. If you have to have a military tow vehicle, buy an M1008/M1028.

 

[Westech]

 

[CARNAC]

Yep the M416 is the correct trailer.

The 1009 is NOT rated for the 3/4 ton M101 series trailers although I do pull one with mine and I know many others that do also. I've pulled the trailer with 3100 pounds of mulch but took it very easy and would never think of doing that on anything other than clear dry roads. Watch your stopping distance if you are using anything other than the 416.

 

[dirtyfingernails]

See, I told you I would be corrected if wrong. Thanks guys.

 

[tankie88]

Thanks for the info chaps.All i have to do is find a M416 here in the UK.

 

[caladin]

Yep the M416 is the correct trailer.

The 1009 is NOT rated for the 3/4 ton M101 series trailers although I do pull one with mine and I know many others that do also. I've pulled the trailer with 3100 pounds of mulch but took it very easy and would never think of doing that on anything other than clear dry roads. Watch your stopping distance if you are using anything other than the 416.

Rebooting an Old thread!

Did you change to a class 3 hitch? Whats is an optimal setup so that the M1009 can use that trailer.

 

[Barrman]

Which trailer, a M101 or M105? Forget the M105. Don't even hook it up. The M101 kind of depends on what you are doing. A few hundred pounds in a M101A2 with the surge brakes that work is no problem. Hauling a ton or so of gravel is not a good idea. The stock pintle would probably hold, but the 3.08 gears in 10 bolt axles with not much of a transmission cooler mean the truck might not go very far anyway.

Now, since this was a question from England. A Canadian M101 is the same in size as an American 416 trailer. Actually, I think the Canadian M101 version of the 416 is better. Hand holds in the corners and a few extra tie downs.

Below is a picture of my M1009 with a M101A2 hooked up a few weeks ago as I was going camping with the Scouts. Not much of a load and only 40 miles to go. You can tell though that the trailer is pretty darn big for the truck. Stock sized tires on both vehicles.

 

[Barrman]

Hmm, can't add a picture with the edit button. Here it is.

 

[nattieleather]

I don't want to fly in the face of everyone here, but the army put a directive out stating that the M416 1/4 ton trailer was not to be used with the CUCV Serries vehicles. The reason is that a driver can not see the trailer behind the vehicle when towing. Backing up the 1/4 trailer is near impossible even with a ground guide. I know I had both an M151 with M416 trailer and a M1009 and it was a real trip to pull that trailer behind the Blazer because you couldn't see it in the mirrors very well. Thus making turns became difficult because you couldn't judge how close the trailer might be to objects. I put a dent in the body just below the tail light trying to back it up when it jacknifed and I didn't know it till it was to late. If I ever own a 3/4 ton M1009 again and had to pull a trailer I would use the 3/4 ton M101 like Barrman has pictured above. One can always reinforce the pintle hitch for towing and you can have a clear view of the thing your towning behind you.

 

[Barrman]

I see how it goes. I make fun of your M37 body and you start pointing out things about me. Thanks alot Joe. Now I have to pick back.

Page 2-57, paragraph 2-14, sub section a (1) of the 9-2320-289-10 clearly states that the M1009 is only supposed to pull trailers from the M416 1/4 ton series. Change 5 was made to that manual in May of 1992.

Of course, you were writting about directives which are different than what is written in the manual.

I agree with you too now that the fun is over. The 416 is hard to see and just about impossible to back up. A person is better of un hooking and walking it back by hand. I can see the M101 just fine, it tracks great, backs up easy and pulls like a dream.

 

[caladin]

Which trailer, a M101 or M105? Forget the M105. Don't even hook it up. The M101 kind of depends on what you are doing. A few hundred pounds in a M101A2 with the surge brakes that work is no problem. Hauling a ton or so of gravel is not a good idea. The stock pintle would probably hold, but the 3.08 gears in 10 bolt axles with not much of a transmission cooler mean the truck might not go very far anyway.

Now, since this was a question from England. A Canadian M101 is the same in size as an American 416 trailer. Actually, I think the Canadian M101 version of the 416 is better. Hand holds in the corners and a few extra tie downs.

Below is a picture of my M1009 with a M101A2 hooked up a few weeks ago as I was going camping with the Scouts. Not much of a load and only 40 miles to go. You can tell though that the trailer is pretty darn big for the truck. Stock sized tires on both vehicles.

A M101 is what Im looking to purchase. I have a F250SD Diesel so I was going to use that with a moded hitch to pull it around tell I get the M1009

With the M1009 I am going to make it into somthing for camping with... lots of ideas swirling around there. Im speaking of the trailer.

 

[Barrman]

Mckoen, Pawnshop, 813Rc and myself continued this discussion at our local LSMVPA meeting last night. We have all pulled M101 trailers with our M1009's. The book might not say you are supposed to do it, but they go together like they were made for each other.

One reason that has been pointed out on here before that might be why the 101 was a no no for the 1009. Soldier A, Soldier B and Soldier C can sure pile a lot of stuff into a M101 when left un supervised. Think of a M101 full of ammo cases. The trailer can be overloaded real fast with stuff that heavy. When a 101 is overloaded, it is waaaayyyy beyond the rated pulling capacity of a 1009. However, a 416 is a lot smaller trailer. Stacking it full of something heavy such as ammo. Would still be less than 1/3 the weight of a full M101. Keep it simple probably came into play and the M101 was written out of the M1009 use book.

 

[MuleMac01]

If i was to get one i'll go with the M101 not because of the weight cap but you can hold alot more light items like camping gear ect ect....

 

[rnd-motorsports]

 

[Pawnshop]

The M416 behind the M1009 is a dream, it does not affect the turning radius, and adds some hauling ability. It took some practice but I did eventually learn how to back up with the M416, and I can see it in the mirror behind me, but I am 6'3" and have a different angle of view.

Ditto on the M101A2, I love it, I think it is the best all around trailer for any vehicle that can safely haul #4000, but DO NOT overload it behind a M1009!!!

 

[tankie88]

Due to the lack of US trailers here in the UK i tow a british army sankey trailer.That's the ones we use behind the Land Rover.

 

[armytruck63]

Due to the lack of US trailers here in the UK i tow a british army sankey trailer.That's the ones we use behind the Land Rover.

Do you have pictures of the Sankey trailer? Thanks.