Deuce paint and rust removal question?????

[commandojd]

Hello
I just bought myself a m35a2 a few months ago and I have pondered the idea of giving it a nice new paint job. Overall I have basically zero knowledge of painting these things and have lots of questions.
I have spoke with a few deuce owners and they tell me that all they do is brush the paint on right over the rust and old paint, but I dont think thats really a perminate paint job, but they say you dont have to nessisarly remove all the rust in order to give it a nice paint job. Right know I am currently useing rustolium paint and primer.

I have heard CARC is the ideal paint for the military vehicles, but is isnt very safe. What kind/ brands of paint and primer do you guys recommend, Im doing my truck with a flat green and black?
When priming and painting, does all the rust need to be removed in order to ensure a nice paint job? I heard some guys use that rustoliem rust killer that you can spray right on to the rust to make it a printable surface?
ANd do you simply just prime it and paint it, or do you need hardeners of some kind?

WHAT DO YOU GUYS RECOMMEND??

 

[poppop]

Even with rust killing paint you need to remove the loose rust and scale. I like to get the rusty spots as clean as possible with a wire brush on a side grinder. I use a product called rust converter which wooks very good and makes an excellent primer coat. I just did an antique tractor seat with it a couple days ago. It sprays on white, reacts with the rust and turns black. You ned to wash it before painting to remove what did not react from clean metal and paint. How far you take it down depends on what you want it to look like in the end. If you want that new look it will have to be sanded smooth, not necessarly down to metal but smooth. The military just washed, maybe scraped loose rust and sprayed. Somestimes they even used brushes. As for paint I have seen good looking jobs with rustolem and even whole trucks with rattle cans. Gillispy is a good brand and can be bought from several parts dealers. Carc is hard to come by and usually can only be gotten from a supplier who has bought some surplus even though it is a Sherwin Williams paint. I would say no on hardners because that makes it shine more and you need special breathing gear to spray it and be safe.

 

[Tlauden]

Search for this topic, TONS of threads on what guys have used, tools they have needed, and paint codes to match the OD green.

And just a friendly reminder, two posts of the same category will be merged by mods or one of them be deleted.

 

[commandojd]

Ok, so basically all the rough rusty areas need to be sanded down near smooth to remove all the major rust and paint and then rust converted, primed and painted? What brand of rust converter do you use??
Thanks for the great info.

 

[poppop]

I don't know who makes it but its called rust converter, thats what is on the jug. I get mine at the Pittsburg paint store. They have another product that is in the same type jug so be sure it says rust converter on ot. If you use this don't pour any material that has been exposed to rust back in the jug as it will catilize the whole jug. Some people like POR-15 but I have never used it. Another is Ospho which is a phorforus treatment. I have used it and did not like it. The rust converter leaves a very hard surface. I have had to weld on some before and you have to really bang the rod to get it started welding. The rust converter thins with water and cleans up with water. It does not sand well with a power sander until really cured but sprays on smooth so rarely have to sand. You might want to wipe it with a scotch pad to roughen it some before applying the color.

On the rust removal some people use an air powered needle scaler and say it works well on paint also. No experiance here on that.

 

[TacticalDoc]

Just painter the front of my truck as an experiment. Most of it hase a few layers of paint on it already an dhas rust spots and flaking.

For the bumper I scraped off the flaking paint/ rust and painted.

for the rest of the cab/frnders I scrapped off the flakes and sanded the rusted spots down a little.

I used behr paint which has a primer in it...I think

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