yes and talk a bout a noise you will never forget, on older vehicles especially some like we deal with here, a regular pm and maintenance schedule is a really good idea, check areas and parts that you would normally just pass over or would never think to check otherwise... Im that way with my CTD dodge, at least 3-4 times a year i crawl underneath her and just lay there on my back looking, you would be surpised what you can see if you are there long enough.