M925 Winch not working

[Triple C]

Gentlemen. I recently sold my 925 to a neighbor that is a good friend (so I could keep visitation rights!) He is a bit younger and will be able to keep it in great shape. In fact he has tackled the winch which I never got to. I knew it didn't work but I never worked on it. He has the TM's but he is still learning how to navigate them. I gave him my hard copies so I don't have them anymore. I did look in the electronic copy I have but I am not much better than he is in that regard. I also went through 10 pages of threads but didn't find the answer I was looking for. I wanted to present my bona-fides before I asked if anyone can tell me the answer to a few questions. First, with the truck parking brake on, putting the truck in 1-5, and manually moving the pto lever into what should be the engage position, shouldn't the pto shaft begin to turn? It doesn't do that even when the shifter is moved back to neutral. With the truck turned off, it is possible to turn the pto shaft by hand and it moves easier in one direction than the other (though I didn't move it so I can't say which way.) Other than the winch not functioning, the trans works as expected and the fluid level and look is okay. Hopefully he is going through the tm's but I thought I would check in with you guys and get your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

 

[R Racing]

Did you check your oil level in the hydraulic tank? Also have you inspected the pto engage cable ? I have seen them seazed.

 

[Triple C]

Good questions! Thanks for the prompt response. Yes the tank level is good and the cable wasn't working well so we took it off and moved the lever by and (through the access door in the cab.) It moves freely but doesn't seem to make a difference which position it is in, the pto shaft doesn't move.

 

[Farmallmilitary]

The first thing I would check for is if the cable is siezed, broken or just out of adjustment. You can see the lever on the pto move when you move the lever inside the cab.

 

[Farmallmilitary]

Oops, just saw your post.

 

[R Racing]

You may have to remove the cover and check the drive gear and you won't see it but it should be keyed to the shaft. Perhaps the key is sheared?

 

[rhurey]

The shift gear in the PTO can also not engage if it's not tight enough to the shift lever on the PTO.

And the other thing, are you sure the PTO lever is engaging fully? It will come about 1/2 way every time, but the rest will depend on where the transmission gear happened to stop rotating. If the lever in the cab wasn't coming all the way back when it was attached, could be this.

 

[m16ty]

If the shaft isn't spinning when you move the PTO lever to engage the PTO, you've got a problem with the PTO. Take the cable off the PTO lever and see if it will engage by hand. If it won't, the problem will be inside. You should be able to pull the shifter cover off to maybe see what's going on.

 

[Triple C]

Sounds like the problem is inside the PTO. We did take the cable off and moved the pto lever by hand. It moves freely. I like the shear pin idea, that would explain why it moves easily with no apparent change in the operation of the pto. Guess he needs to take that off and see what is going on inside!

 

[74M35A2]

I have a 925A2. Withe the truck at idle and foot brake on, put trans into 1-5 and keep truck still. Pull PTO engagement lever back to engage. Let the truck creep forward a few feet while pulling the engagement lever. At this point you may feel it pull into engaged position. Then once back into neutral, you should hear the PTO shaft and pump spinning. My engagement lever will hit the metal case when fully engaged.

PTO will not spin in 1-5 while at a stand-still. This is why you engage it then. You can disengage while it is spinning in neutral, but only engage in 1-5 at less than 1mph forward speed. Parking brake will probably make it all a little more difficult as the gears need to move slightly to align and fully engage.

 

[builderboy]

I had similar problems... wouldn't engage, do what 74m35a2 said... should work.. then on to the next issue!!!

 

[Wildchild467]

Don't forget to not spin your PTO faster than 1800 Engine RPM. Your valves will not be happy if you do.

 

[Triple C]

Well, didn't work to engage while creeping forward, think he is going to have to open the PTO case and check out that shear pin. Thanks guys for the help.

 

[Alexsha]

<smartass>Title should be "M925 Winch Not Winching"</smartass>

 

[Triple C]

<smartass>Title should be "M925 Winch Not Winching"</smartass>

Amen brother.

 

[slothman]

Any tips on how to open up the PTO to inspect? I have the same issue, won't engage, lever feels very loose (it still moves the switch on the PTO though) but won't engage while slow rolling in 1-5 or in neutral. I suspect it may be shear pin as above?

 

[timntrucks]

I have been working on trying to get my winch to work too. I finally get the pto to engage and the shaft spin but the directional unit seams to be stuck. i oil after sanding the shaft but i can only get it out some and it doesnt stay out. The shaft doesnt want to go in. Please help

 

[ericp351]

my trouble was broken weld in cab for controll piviot. simple stuf quered the deal!