"NEW" Tires arrived today

[Daves86]

Got my "NEW" tires delivered today.

Not sure how comfortable I am putting an 11 year old tire on my truck. The other two are date code 1310 and 3111. Truth is I did not ask about date codes before I ordered, add said "NEW". These are still newer and in better condition than my current tires.
So they are going on.
Just want folks to make sure they ask the right questions (and make no assumptions) when buying parts for their rig, so they are not surprised by what they receive.

 

[simp5782]

About the newest you will get surplus is 17 or 18s they are $1200 a set. Besides newer buying from your local Goodyear or tirerack

Try to keep them protected from the sun as much as possible to promote longevity.

Most surplus folks won't date code sort tires. Its too time consuming when you have 445 in each trailer

 

[Daves86]

About the newest you will get surplus is 17 or 18s they are $1200 a set. Besides newer buying from your local Goodyear or tirerack

Try to keep them protected from the sun as much as possible to promote longevity.

Most surplus folks won't date code sort tires. Its too time consuming when you have 445 in each trailer

Thanks, That's good information to have.

 

[Daves86]

O-rings showed up last week. Bead lockers showed up today

And supposed to be nice weather tomorrow!

 

[Daves86]

Today did not go well for installing tires.

Pics of RIGHT and WRONG tool for disassembly.
Should have had a clue when TM said torque to 125lb/ft. But that was not what stopped me for the day.

Before you start make sure you have spare studs and bolts. These 3 stripped and I had to cut them off and did not have spares, so that pretty much ended my day for tire changing.
Good thing I enjoy this Hobby, otherwise I might bet frustrated.

 

[Thumper580]

Today did not go well for installing tires.
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Pics of RIGHT and WRONG tool for disassembly.
Should have had a clue when TM said torque to 125lb/ft. But that was not what stopped me for the day.
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Before you start make sure you have spare studs and bolts. These 3 stripped and I had to cut them off and did not have spares, so that pretty much ended my day for tire changing.
Good thing I enjoy this Hobby, otherwise I might bet frustrated.

What do you use to break the tire bead?

 

[Daves86]

I did not get the bead separated from the rim. I stopped when I realized I did not have the studs and bolts needed to finish the job. Working on making a tool that uses a bottle jack and leverage to pull the rim out of the bead. Saw some one use a motor hoist, it looked sound, but I want something smaller so it will have to be built not bought.

 

[simp5782]

I did not get the bead separated from the rim. I stopped when I realized I did not have the studs and bolts needed to finish the job. Working on making a tool that uses a bottle jack and leverage to pull the rim out of the bead. Saw some one use a motor hoist, it looked sound, but I want something smaller so it will have to be built not bought.

Stanley crow bar works well along with a 4 or 6# sledge. Used them for years to break beads on all size tires

 

[Daves86]

I tend to like brute force and awkwardness, I'm just getting older and want the tools to do the work, vice me as the tool doing the work

 

[Curtisje]

I did not get the bead separated from the rim. I stopped when I realized I did not have the studs and bolts needed to finish the job. Working on making a tool that uses a bottle jack and leverage to pull the rim out of the bead. Saw some one use a motor hoist, it looked sound, but I want something smaller so it will have to be built not bought.

I can't count how many HMMWV tires I've broken down and built with a block of wood, a sledgehammer, my Milwaukee 1/2 inch impact and soapy water in a spray bottle. There's always a few studs that work loose from the impact. I just smack them back in from the backside and continue.

Once the rim nuts are off a few good whacks with the sledgehammer on the sidewall frees the ring from the tire. Flip it over and place the wheel on the block of wood so the tire isn't on the ground and a few whacks more and you can pull out the wheel by hand. That's how I do it but there's 101 ways to skin a cat. Good luck.

 

[Daves86]

The three studs that broke loose did not stay put when pounded back in place. I could not get a good enough grip with vise grips to hold them and get the nut off the stud. I did get 3 or four layers of paint though. Wound up cutting with a cutting wheel (what a PITA) but it got them out. MME is 2 day shipping the studs and HPG is shipping the bolts, so I will get back on this project by weeks end.
BFH and a wood block? May have to give that a try before I go making a tool. Thanks for the ideas folks!!!

 

[simp5782]

The three studs that broke loose did not stay put when pounded back in place. I could not get a good enough grip with vise grips to hold them and get the nut off the stud. I did get 3 or four layers of paint though. Wound up cutting with a cutting wheel (what a PITA) but it got them out. MME is 2 day shipping the studs and HPG is shipping the bolts, so I will get back on this project by weeks end.
BFH and a wood block? May have to give that a try before I go making a tool. Thanks for the ideas folks!!!

Next time knock em back in and tack weld it. If you don't have a welder then use a car battery and some jumper cables with a welding rod.

Always great to keep rods around they work great using the wire inside to secure things or in place of cotter pins

 

[Daves86]

New tires installed. Centramatics as well

Old tires looked pretty tread worn when sitting next to new tires, so I took some measures to see what diff if any, Answer is no difference.

Raised the truck maybe 1/4 inch.
Need to check the difference on the speedo and see. Truck only wanted to do 50mph today but I did not have anything to judge it against. Will figure that out later.
Did not balance the tires, just installed them and added the centramatics and went for a drive. Seems smoother, but noisier but it was only a short run.

 

[Thumper580]

New tires installed. Centramatics as well
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Old tires looked pretty tread worn when sitting next to new tires, so I took some measures to see what diff if any, Answer is no difference.
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Raised the truck maybe 1/4 inch.
Need to check the difference on the speedo and see. Truck only wanted to do 50mph today but I did not have anything to judge it against. Will figure that out later.
Did not balance the tires, just installed them and added the centramatics and went for a drive. Seems smoother, but noisier but it was only a short run.

Do the centramatics really work well?

 

[Daves86]

Here is what I can tell from the short ride I did. Previous tire and rim combo on driverside rear has 5 oz of weight on the outer rim none inside. Passenger front had two 2.5 oz weights on the inner and two 2.5 oz weights on the outer rim. 1 Wheel with 10 oz and, 5 oz on the other, the other 2 rims no weights.
Prior to the tire change the truck was normally a smooth ride with an occasional instability at 55-60 mph (inconsistent)
New tires installed with no weights, just centramatics. Drove for about 5 miles (2 of which was at 50mph) rest was back roads <35 mph.

Truck drove fine. No wobble in the wheel, ran straight. New tires are noisy. Did not feel any instability. But it was a 5 mile drive, so is it good tires or the centramatics?

I will drive the truck more tomorrow and get a better feel.

 

[Daves86]

Someone just pointed out that the real test should be using the new tires and comparing the ride with and without the centramatics. Let me see if I can make that happen this week. Comparing the old tires with weights and the new tires with centramatics really isn't a fair shake.

 

[Curtisje]

Do the centramatics really work well?

I've used both Centramatics and Balance Masters for years on my CUCVs with HMMWV wheels & tires. They work for me. My local tire shop couldn't balance the tires. Once I installed the balancers I got a smooth ride. I haven't tried traditional balancing since then (2013).