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No Brakes!!!!!!!

heftybuilt

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let me start by saying I bought my first deuce and was able to get it for a good deal but it had no brakes. It came with a new master as it was leaking when I bought it so I installed it and blead the system. I still have no breaks unless I pump the pedal a few times. Is it possible my air pac may be bad? all the backing plates were dry and I tried adjusting the brakes without disassembly of the drums. There is good air psi and no leaks.
 

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I had the same symptoms as you even after a new master . In the end all I needed was the homebuilt power bleeder made out of a weed sprayer . I ran about a quart through each bleeder and I was good to go . One thing I did different with my bleeder was to put a small fuel filter on my bleeder to filter the dot 5 so that I could put the fluid that came out of the bleeders back into the weedsprayer .
 

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I would lube the air pack and bleed the system per the TM. A full brake inspect should be done lines, hoses,......everything.

Just my thoughts but I never reuse brake fluid.
 

oddshot

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I tried adjusting the brakes without disassembly of the drums.
This sentence kinda jumps out at me ... because improperly adjusted brakes CAN pump up.

Check the manual to get the correct procedure for adjusting brakes; adjust them PROPERLY before doing anything else.

THEN re-bleed the system. But remember ... There is a sequence to follow when bleeding brakes ... get it wrong ... and you can just be bouncing air back and forth in the system.


FOLLOW THE BLEEDING SEQUENCE PROCEDURE FOUND IN THE MANUAL.

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I would adjust them first, then bleed them starting with the airpack using a pressure bleeder.
 

oddshot

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I have a pressure bleeder that i use at work for brake flushes so I plan to lube the air pak and bleed the system again

aua
lesseelesseelessee ...


... you just bought the truck ... it has/had no brakes ... you didn't even bother to pull the wheels ... you "TRIED" adjusting the brakes ... but the back plates are dry ... so you figure everything is OK.

It sounds like you got it ALL covered.

My bad. Sorry.

Keep doing it your way.

oddshot

Do I notice this is your second post?

Welcome aboard.

You're gonna LOVE it here.
 

porkysplace

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heftybuilt , ignore the rude my way is the only way comments. Proceed as planed inspect, adjust, rebled . take the advice some of the experienced senior members here and you will do fine.
 

4x4 Forever

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You can search for the power bleeder and see what everyone is talking about. I saw the post and headed out for the Home Depot and acquired all that was needed and built it in an hour.

You will thank yourself for this!

Please do look through the Deuce posts and also the TMs, it will save you aggravations and headaches.
http://www.jatonkam35s.com/jatonkaM35sTMdownloadpage.htm
Good Luck!
 
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oddshot

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Proceed as planed inspect, adjust, rebleed.

That's my point, he isn't going to "Inspect and adjust" ...

He's just gonna bleed.

I wonder if this might sound familiar:

"Now, there is something we need to discuss here.
As this is a single reservoir brake system, ONE failure……. ONE blown wheel cylinder, ONE rotted brake hose, ONE failed master cylinder can render you totally brakeless. In a 13K lb. truck, that’s bad. The parking brake on these trucks is not designed to stop 13K lbs. of hurtling truck. Before ANY Deuce is put into motion, a COMPLETE inspection of the brake system is in order."


The OP doesn't want to do that.



It is a FACT that improperly adjusted brakes ... can pump up.


Following the procedure in the TM's would set him right.


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4x4 Forever

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The OP doesn't want to do that.

With the posts after that remark, several told him to check the brakes per the TM. I think that he gets the idea.

If thats what he wants to do, there is nothing that you, or I, or anyone here can change. Theres no use in getting uptight about it, he will learn.

 

heftybuilt

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yup I understand what must be done and plan on checking all the brakes. I have a feeling that they are out of adjustment or thin. I used a psi bleeder today and I had no luck so I checked the front shoes,springs,wheel cylinders and they were good. I had adjusted them properly so this week I plan to check the rear. They sound like they are traveling far before they hit the drum due to this deuce being driven daily for 4 years and having 45k on it the rear shoes may be paper thin. When I tried to adjust them without dissasembly the adjusters just spin and never get tight so I am going to tear it down. "The Proper Way"

I have been working on cars and trucks for a long time and understand what I need to do and respect everyones opinions I was not looking for criticism only help. Thanks:deadhorse:
 

glcaines

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I have been working on cars and trucks for a long time and understand what I need to do and respect everyones opinions I was not looking for criticism only help.
Don't let rude posts scare you off. Welcome to Steel Soldiers, and good luck with your Deuce brakes. I live about a half mile from the NC line in North Georgia and I was going to offer to come and help you, but then I found out that you are about 535 miles away from me! NC is a big state. If you need any help let us know. Please keep posting to keep us updated on your progress. There are a lot of people here that will be glad to help you.
 

oddshot

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yup I understand what must be done and plan on checking all the brakes.

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When I tried to adjust them without dissasembly the adjusters just spin and never get tight so I am going to tear it down. "The Proper Way"

I have been working on cars and trucks for a long time and understand what I need to do and respect everyones opinions I was not looking for criticism only help. Thanks
There's the lad!

You can fudge a LOT of stuff on the Deuce ... but the brakes, as simple as they are, are VITALLY important to get right.

You've only got a single circuit. If you lose just a piece of it ... there is simply NO wiggle room.

BTW ... you can find ALL the manuals you will need to keep your Deuce up at:
JATONKAM35s HOME ON THE WEB

or

http://www.xm381.com/xm381/Home.html

... the down loads are free.


BTW II ... I wasn't being "critical" ... I was trying to convey a sense of urgency. It was obvious to me that bleeding was NOT your problem ... proper inspection and adjustment was.


anyoldways ...


WELCOME ABOARD!!!!

Glad to have you!

Other than fixing the brakes ... what other plans do you have for your Deuce?

oddshot
 
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heftybuilt

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I need to fix the seat and get a new top and fix some minor rust also like to convert the rear wheels to singals with hemit rims and bigger tires all the way around.
 
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