Old tanks

[Panzer282]

any body know where to find old TANKS for sale that dont run for show?

 

[dburt]

Get a hold of Alex at www.idahomotorpool.com and I'll bet he has a lead of some kind for you. On his website, he has a big tank of some kind that runs, and seems to know where stuff is out here on the west coast.

 

[CARNAC]

What is the plan? If this is for a VFW, American Legion, town square display, and some museums, you can request vehicles from TAACOM (Tank and Automotive Command). They usually have 113's readily available and may still have a few M60's sitting around.

Be forewarned there is a very specific demil process for these vehicles that must be certified by a US government inspector. You will also be responsible for transport of the vehicle.

There is a potential side step to the transport and certification issue. By using the political machine, it is potentially possible to have a senator or congressman request the Guard to transport it and demil it. Might even get a concrete pad built by an Engineer unit---maybe.
A lot of moving pieces.

 

[bulldog_mack13]

TAACOM still owns the M113's and M60's etc. after they give them to the VFW and American Legions right ?

 

[MWMULES]

YES THEY DO! Taacom will send out a letter every once and a while and ask if it is still there and in the 7 years we have had a duster they have show up in person twice.

 

[CARNAC]

Yes, it is considered loaned equipment and stays on their books. When looked up for location, they show as kept in Anniston AL but are actually in Hometown USA.

 

[bulldog_mack13]

Thats what i thought , seems like they gave em away by the way I read the post LOL

 

[M-37Bruce]

M-60

Here's one of our loaners. VFW/VMVA
http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/37632/2734311970033940873S500x500Q85.jpg

 

[hot rod deuce]

I have an FV432 in my front yard I would sell. Looks like a 113.

 

[jwaller]

I have an FV432 in my front yard I would sell. Looks like a 113.

does it run and what do you want for it?

 

[Crazyguyla]

The demil for M50 tanks is pretty easy as far as the chassis goes. The tracks get welded every 3rd to 4th link and the engine blocks get the blue tip wrench treatment to open them up for better ventilation. Heard this story from a MATES down in La. Seems TACOM let some M60's go to a few VFW's before being demiled. The only way anyone found out, a certain VFW in La was driving their M60 in a parade. There was a recall and the M60's got the demil done. I've been told that certain tug boats use the same desiels as an M60. I don't know if this is true.

 

[southdave]

Sam Winer Don't know if they are for sale or not he is Akron,Oh.

 

[CARNAC]

I was asked for this info. Figured I'd pass it on to all reference getting these donations:

https://www.drms.dla.mil/rtd03/veterans.htm

 

[11Echo]

This one was in very good condition at a VFW post I stopped at.

 

[neilhendrix]

CARNAC.. The link was stopped by my pc saying a security failure??? I`d really like to see whats up there. Any ideas

Thanks Neil

 

[dittle]

Most of the stuff that we have had come to the museum as "demilled" has been welded shut and had the power packs ripped out. The tracks haven't been touched. When I mean ripped out on the power packs I mean all they do is remove the "hard mounts" and fuel connections, hook up a crane and start pulling. Pretty much all of the electronic wiring is screwed up by the time they're done. I'm sure there is a mil spec on how to demil different models but it seems that some places don't necessarily follow it.

 

[CARNAC]

You are correct, there is a specific "how to" on the demill of items.

 

[CARNAC]

Here's what the webpage says:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Donation to Veteran Groups [/FONT]
https://www.drms.dla.mil/rtd03/documents/MilstripOrder.ppt

Military Service Points of Contact for Loan, Donation or Exchange of Property
Public Law 80-421 (U.S.C. 2572) authorizes the Secretaries of the Military Departments to donate or loan certain types of surplus military equipment to recognized, selected recipients.

The following organizations are authorized to acquire, through
donation or loan, obsolete or condemned combat material, books, manuscripts, works of art, drawings, plans and models for historical, ceremonial and display purposes:

a. Veterans organizations . Requests for loan or donation of property submitted by posts or local units of recognized veterans organizations shall include the written approval of
their national headquarters, if they are organized in that matter.

b. Soldiers Monument Associations

c. State Museums

d. Incorporated Museums

e. Municipal Museums

f. Sons of Veterans Reserves
Requests for equipment should be addressed to the appropriate military service command, as follows:


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ARMY

All Army-Owned Commodities:
U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command
ATTN: AMSTA-LC-CID
6501 E. 11 Mile Road
Warren, MI 48397-5000



NAVYNavy & Marine Corps aircraft, air launched missiles, aircraft engines, & aviation related property:

Commanding Officer
Navy Aviation Supply Office
ATTN: Code-03432-06
700 Robbins Ave
Philadelphia, PAÂ 19111-5098

Obsolete or condemned Navy vessels for donation as memorials;

Naval Sea Systems Command
Attn: Navy Inactive Ships Program (PMS 333)
1333 Isaac Hull Avenue S.E. Stop 2701
Washington, DC 20376-2701

http://peoships.crane.navy.mil/Inactiveships/Donation/default.htm



AIR FORCE

All inquiries for loan of Air Force aircraft or missiles for other than museum should be directed to:
National Museum of the United States Air Force Static Display Program Administrator
1100 Spaatz St.
Wright Patterson AFB, OH 45433-7102
Email address: nationalmuseum.workflow@wpafb.af.mil
Phone: (937)255-4770
All inquiries for loan of Air Force aircraft, missiles or other items authorized for loan for display purposes to a museum should be directed to:
USAFM/MUX
Attn: Ms. Sarah Sessions
1100 Spaatz St
Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433-7102
Email address: sarah.sessions@wpafb.af.mil
Phone: (937) 255-5174 ext 376


MARINE CORPS

Marine Corps historical property, all other inquires:
Marine Corps Museums Branch
ATTN: Registrar
2014 Anderson Avenue
Quantico, VA 22134-5002

*Reference: DoD 4160-21-M, Ch 6, H5a(10)b​

For any questions please contact the RTD Branch

Last Updated 12/30/08 (CLM)​

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