Pulling a 105 trailer with M1008

[combat32]

.Anyone here pulling a 105 trailer with their M1008? Mine has a 4 inch lift so when it is hooked up it sits level, I have pulled it up and down the road in front of my house and it seems to pull ok, I guess my question would be is the weight of the 105 too much, lookin for a way to haul my mule to club events and such and I know the mule is a tight fit in the 101 series, and the 105 is already paid for.

 

[indy4x4fab]

Yes, tow a m105 with a m1008, sorta. Going down the interstate I think you will be just fine but it's the side streets I would be post wearied about. You wont have any trailer brakes and that's 105 going to be pushing your tucks stock brakes to there limits.

 

[rosco]

That is far too much weight, not to have trailer brakes. That 105 will push you into the middle of next week, in a panick stop. Just because its paid for, is not a good justification.

 

[ken]

Tom i've pulled mine with my M1028 stock many miles. And it isn't level at all. I used to haul a 46 CJ2A i had with it to off road runs. You just need to give yourself extra stopping room. And the tail lights will be very dim. The CUCV has a 12V output. Mabye get some LED bulbs so you can tow it with the M35 also without changing bulbs.

 

[combat32]

Thanks for the info, I am well aware of the weight and additional stopping distance required.I didn't even think about the light issue Ken, thanks

 

[Recovry4x4]

1156 and 97 bulbs can fix the lights. Brakes would be my only concern and a competent driver will know the limitations of that.

 

[amaverick88]

I have towed a 105 while moving behind my 07 f150 before without a problem. You just need to give yourself extra space and be a confident driver that can tow and know what you are doing.

 

[porkysplace]

In michigan any trailer over 3000# gross trailer wieght is required to have operational brakes . You should contact your state police or DMV to find the requirements for your state.
Dosen't the 105 weigh over 3000# empty ?

 

[drgreg]

Net weight2,650 lbs. Max gross wt7,150 lbs.

 

[boondock]

I agree with the 'too much weight & without brakes' assessment- this is not a good idea as one needs to drive expecting less than ideal situations.

 

[Derrickl112]

Will the mule fit in the back of the 1008?

 

[drgreg]

I think a Mule is about 870 lbs.

 

[combat32]

Will the mule fit in the back of the 1008?

Yes, but it would kind of cramp my style,I'll study on it a while and make a few test runs to see how it goes before I make any long trips.

 

[drgreg]

Will the mule fit in the back of the 1008?

Kinda, the OAL is about 120".

 

[porkysplace]

I have towed a 105 while moving behind my 07 f150 before without a problem. You just need to give yourself extra space and be a confident driver that can tow and know what you are doing.

This is all good in theory but when pulling a trailer that exceeds the towing limits of tow vehicle without brakes or within the laws of the state for brakes . It dosen't matter how much distance you put in front of you ,when someome pulls out in front of you or turns left in front of you because they think they have room because of the extra space you gave yourself . And when someone is severly injured or killed because of unsafe trailering your the won who will be defending the lawsuits and penalities from the police.

 

[Matt1031]

M105 weighs about 2700 lbs empty. Mule weighs 870, + supplies weigh ? Figure 4k lbs to make it a nice even number.

Most states require any trailer over 3000 lbs to have brakes (for good reason) so you're technically breaking the law. There's a few exceptions where the law states as low as 1500, and as high as 10,000 but for the majority of states/municipalities it's 3000 lbs.Don't take my word for it, look up the law where you intend to travel just to be sure. Google is your friend.

I see unsafe trailers on the road every day. Realistically, non-op trailer brakes are probably the last thing you will get pulled over for because it's not like a cop can see your brakes (or lack thereof) from the side of the road. DOT enforcement is after commercial drivers and unlikely to care about a "little" truck. Will you get pulled over for it? Doubt it.

BUT.... remember that we live in a litigious society. If you are ever involved in a serious accident whether or not it's your fault, there's a high probability you're also going to get sued. If your trailer wasn't completely safe/legal at the time of the accident, you can kiss your insurance policy goodbye. No chance you'll win a civil suit if you were the one driving an "unsafe" vehicle. Doesn't matter if you are the world's safest driver; if your vehicle doesn't meet minimum legal requirements, you have zero defense against a lawsuit.

So to answer the question:
You can do it. I wouldn't do it.

 

[combat32]

Again thanks for all the advice, I will evaluate it, do some test runs loaded and make my determination from there.

 

[steelandcanvas]

Here is a link for brake requirements:
Trailer Brake Requirements For Towed Vehicles

 

[scrapdaddy]

Buy a Dexter electric / hydro. drum brake actuator. Look at Trailer Parts Superstore.

 

[91W350]

Some states have a percentage of vehicle weight rule. Take your empty trailer and try a couple of panic stops, go up in 5 mph increments from about 20 mph. If you tell yourself you can drive ahead, think back on the times that other people did not let you drive ahead. Unfortunately the general public has no concept of weight and how it increases stopping distance, everybody can stop and evade like they can. I learned the lesson the hard way and took a really nasty ride into a ditch trying to stop a load of firewood. I had done it many times before, I have not done it since.

Generally if your towed load is more than 30 percent of your gross vehicle weight, it should have brakes.

Glen