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Winter is coming...winterizing ideas

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My M1008 starts kinda crappy if its below 60 degrees and takes a lot of glow plug cycling (pugs are new). So needless to say it isn't going to start if its below 40.

What are the best ways you guys have found to make your 6.2's to start easily in sub-zero temps?? Please help!
 
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My M1008 sat for two weeks while I was away for Thanksgiving... Was cold soaked to 5 degrees... Today at 15 degrees it started right up and idled fine after two preheats of the glow plugs... you must have issues with your glow plugs... For sub zero you need some anti gel in the fuel..good batteries and good glow plugs...vroom vroom...
 
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Re: RE: Winter is coming...winterizing ideas

Bobert said:
I think giving it some throttle helps when its cold.
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The TM says that pumping the gas doesn't help start in any conditions. I would get a freeze plug block heater. Those seem to be very beneficial.
 
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RE: Re: RE: Winter is coming...winterizing ideas

Plugging mine in always helped it start better last winter. Even if it was only for 15 minutes or so. I'm pretty sure my glowplugs are failing.



This winter it's in hibernation and only getting run once a week. Road salt is da debil!
 
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I have a coolant heater for when it drops below 30 plus mine is tied into a charging system so it keeps the batteries topped at the same time as keeping the engine warm. I can isolate the heater for if I just need to charge the batteries. Make sure you have good batteries that put out high enough CCA for starting in the colder temps. I would move on to check your glow plugs. Make sure you have the right glow plugs. I have had new ones go bad soon after putting them in so it would pay to double check them. The first link is the one that I have in my truck, I had the 1500W in it till I had some work done and they repositioned it wrong and cooked the heater so I upgraded to the 2000W. The second link is many different types made by that one manufacturer.

http://www.amazon.com/Kats-12200-20...3?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1196303518&sr=8-23
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_1...e heater&rh=i:aps,k:kats engine heater&page=1

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductListSimple.aspx?Category=3057C
 
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I was going to check the glow plugs and batteries. And change the oil and put in 10w30. Or is there a type of oil you have found better?
I dont have the GP controller hooked up...just a push button bypass. and i can remember right i have the Delco G12's Maybe these are the improper GP's?
I was thinking about getting an engine heater...but i didnt know what type was best. The freeze plug-style warmers work best?
Any other ideas or tips?
 
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I've had some problems starting when my 1009 is out of service for more than a few days. I'm beginning to suspect either weak batteries or an air leak in the fuel system. Preparing to pull out the GPs next week and check them - has anyone used a compression tester (like the one Harbor Freight sells) with good results?
 
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10w30 isn't the correct viscosity. 15w40 and most folks seem to use Shell Rotella T.

Check under the front crossmembers and such for a plug in cord. I've seen them get tucked up under somewhere by the prior owner and the new owner doesn't even know they are there. Seems like most of the CUCV's from the cold climates would have them. When I was in the Marines in San Diego all of the ones I saw had them!
 
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Winter is coming...winterizing ideas

DriverSideImpact1008 said:
I was going to check the glow plugs and batteries. And change the oil and put in 10w30. Or is there a type of oil you have found better?
I dont have the GP controller hooked up...just a push button bypass. and i can remember right i have the Delco G12's Maybe these are the improper GP's?
I was thinking about getting an engine heater...but i didnt know what type was best. The freeze plug-style warmers work best?
Any other ideas or tips?
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Stock plugs are 13G's, but you should get the non-swelling Wellman 070's off ebay (search on CUCV glow plug) to be safe. How long are you heating them? The truck should start pretty readily down to 30° or so. Below that it might be a little harder to start , but should still fire over and run in a short time as Ace indicated. It will smoke a bit more for a few seconds, but should start.

A block heater never hurts to save some wear and tear on the engine, starter, etc... My civvy truck has one and I use it for an hour or two prior to running the truck when it's below 32 for extended periods. Makes it start right up and gives you heat a little quicker too.

Follow the instructions on the visor, regardless of what the TM says. Giving the 6.2 a little more fuel on start helps it, that's why GM recommends it. Once it starts, it's fine. When the engine is warmed up, it's not really as important.
 
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Yeah i was planning on using Rotella. Yeah thats right the G 13's...forgot the number...
I heat GP's in a fewl cycles...first for about 7-10 seconds...let it cool for a few seconds...then 5-6 seconds a few times letting the plugs cool a bit between. Then try starting, then 5-6 seconds more a few times if it doesnt start. That usually works...but it smokes like crazy when cold.

Thanks for that tip AMJBlazer...it was an Illinois National Guard truck i'm gonna go check right now...
 
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JohnFire said:
I have a coolant heater for when it drops below 30 plus mine is tied into a charging system so it keeps the batteries topped at the same time as keeping the engine warm. I can isolate the heater for if I just need to charge the batteries. Make sure you have good batteries that put out high enough CCA for starting in the colder temps. I would move on to check your glow plugs. Make sure you have the right glow plugs. I have had new ones go bad soon after putting them in so it would pay to double check them. The first link is the one that I have in my truck, I had the 1500W in it till I had some work done and they repositioned it wrong and cooked the heater so I upgraded to the 2000W. The second link is many different types made by that one manufacturer.

http://www.amazon.com/Kats-12200-20...3?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1196303518&sr=8-23
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_1...e heater&rh=i:aps,k:kats engine heater&page=1

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductListSimple.aspx?Category=3057C
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Where did you plumb your heater into? I have a tankt heater that I am going to install and want to know where yours is setup.
 
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10w30 isn't the correct viscosity. 15w40 and most folks seem to use Shell Rotella T.
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I believe that the visor says 10w30 for below 60 degrees. Is this wrong?
 
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its in one of the freeze plug holes on the engine block, usually they put it on the drivers side. (its easier to get to then the passenger side.
 
JohnFire

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[/quote] Where did you plumb your heater into? I have a tankt heater that I am going to install and want to know where yours is setup.
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I am at work till sunday so I will post pics of the install on the block heater then
 
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If your going to change out the oil use a Good Synthetic I recomend Amsoil but I'm also biased because I'm a dealer. I changed all the fluids in my 1009 to synthetic and run 15w40. Synthetic's maintain their same pour points over a broader range of tempreatures than a petrolumun based oil. The waxes used in a petrolum baised oil start to crystalize below 32 degrees.
I run 5w30 series 3000 in my 04 Cummings and I still plug it in overnight.
Were are you located in Wisconsin?
 
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Armada said:
What are the best ways you guys have found to make your 6.2's to start easily in sub-zero temps?? Please help!
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I put mine up for the winter... ;)
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and I repeat...ROAD SALT IZ DA DEBIL!
 
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