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I do both use the sight and tap talk app. The app is kinda hard to get used to. So for the most part I use the web on the phone. The app is handy when their is less than 3G service and when I want to upload pics.
 

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Again this a INTERNET based site, just because people have smart phones DOES NOT MEAN the site has to be a smart phone site, you joined knowing it was a INTERNET SITE not a phone site, EVERYTHING comes up fine using the INTERNET just as it was designed to do, If the phone users DO NOT have the time or are to lazy to use the INTERNET, that is not anybodys fault but there selves, It used to be that people could WALK, CHEW GUM, TALK, and another HALF DOZEN THING all at the SAME TIME, now if someones smart phone is NOT in hand or to the ear, NOTHING CAN BE DONE, I would guess most smart phone users could not take a crap without the SECURITY of there phone, if for nothing else but to REPORT the QUILTY of the crap on facebook and twitter 2cents2cents2cents
 

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Again this a INTERNET based site, just because people have smart phones DOES NOT MEAN the site has to be a smart phone site, you joined knowing it was a INTERNET SITE not a phone site, EVERYTHING comes up fine using the INTERNET just as it was designed to do, If the phone users DO NOT have the time or are to lazy to use the INTERNET, that is not anybodys fault but there selves, It used to be that people could WALK, CHEW GUM, TALK, and another HALF DOZEN THING all at the SAME TIME, now if someones smart phone is NOT in hand or to the ear, NOTHING CAN BE DONE, I would guess most smart phone users could not take a crap without the SECURITY of there phone, if for nothing else but to REPORT the QUILTY of the crap on facebook and twitter 2cents2cents2cents
The SS site would not change at all. It would look and act the same as it does now when you access it from your computer. We are talking about the ability to access the site so that it looks and acts the same from a mobile device. Simply accessing the SS site - or any web-based forum - from a mobile device using the mobile device's web browser is not quite the same. It loses something in the translation, because mobile devices have display, memory, processing and bandwidth limitations. There are ways to get around this. It sounds like TapTalk is a generic app; I have not used it so I do not know how well it works. I do know that other forums that use the same software as SS offer iPhone apps that work really well. If SS offered an app, then the revenue from that would go to SS and not TapTalk (whoever they are).

As far as personal preferences for smartphones in general, to each their own. Nothing compels anyone to use one. For me, it is just another tool, like any tool in any of my toolboxes. When I need it, when it can be useful, I use it. When it is not needed it is put away.
 

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The problem with apps like the iphone crap is that, someone uses it to upload pics to the site, now poeple on site have to upload the iphone crap to see the pics unless a extra link is provided, sometimes there is, sometimes not, why should anybody have to upload anything, let the phone user fix there phone to be compatible to the net, NOT us net users making our use compatible to the phone, if a app does that fine, If something has to be donwloaded to be compatible to the phone app then NO.

This smart phone crap is what PC correctness was 15 years, If things were not PCC, then it had to be changed till it was, now days it is the smart phone, if not smart phone correct it gets changed till it is smart phone correct, changing the phone is NOT A OPTION just like changing PCC was not an OPTION, both getting FORCED on you
 

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Ron, can you imagine how much fun this forum would be, if we simply listened to it on the radio on Sunday evenings only?
 
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The problem with apps like the iphone crap is that, someone uses it to upload pics to the site, now poeple on site have to upload the iphone crap to see the pics unless a extra link is provided, sometimes there is, sometimes not, why should anybody have to upload anything, let the phone user fix there phone to be compatible to the net, NOT us net users making our use compatible to the phone, if a app does that fine, If something has to be donwloaded to be compatible to the phone app then NO.

This smart phone crap is what PC correctness was 15 years, If things were not PCC, then it had to be changed till it was, now days it is the smart phone, if not smart phone correct it gets changed till it is smart phone correct, changing the phone is NOT A OPTION just like changing PCC was not an OPTION, both getting FORCED on you
Gee, that's not the way it should work at all. The regular users of the forum (using their PCs) should not be able to tell whether a photo was uploaded from an iPhone or laptop or whatever. It is completely transparent - that is the point of having an app. It is what the app does. Make things completely transparent, both ways. It does not change the regular forum web site at all. It just provides flexibility for iPhone, etc. users.

If folks using iPhones with SS are causing difficulties with photos here, then perhaps it is because SS does NOT have an app.

To reiterate, no one is asking the SS forum to change. The app would be additional capability, not a replacement for anything already here.
 

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Thought SS was a INTERNET site, designed and set up for INTERNET ACCESS and USE, NOT for smart phone use, if smart phones can access the site fine, if not all well, don't see ANY REASON for a phone ap, same with the itap crap, if someone post to the site, it should not need a SPECIAL downloaded program to view it.
Again this a INTERNET based site, just because people have smart phones DOES NOT MEAN the site has to be a smart phone site, you joined knowing it was a INTERNET SITE not a phone site, EVERYTHING comes up fine using the INTERNET just as it was designed to do, If the phone users DO NOT have the time or are to lazy to use the INTERNET, that is not anybodys fault but there selves, It used to be that people could WALK, CHEW GUM, TALK, and another HALF DOZEN THING all at the SAME TIME, now if someones smart phone is NOT in hand or to the ear, NOTHING CAN BE DONE, I would guess most smart phone users could not take a crap without the SECURITY of there phone, if for nothing else but to REPORT the QUILTY of the crap on facebook and twitter 2cents2cents2cents
The problem with apps like the iphone crap is that, someone uses it to upload pics to the site, now poeple on site have to upload the iphone crap to see the pics unless a extra link is provided, sometimes there is, sometimes not, why should anybody have to upload anything, let the phone user fix there phone to be compatible to the net, NOT us net users making our use compatible to the phone, if a app does that fine, If something has to be donwloaded to be compatible to the phone app then NO.

This smart phone crap is what PC correctness was 15 years, If things were not PCC, then it had to be changed till it was, now days it is the smart phone, if not smart phone correct it gets changed till it is smart phone correct, changing the phone is NOT A OPTION just like changing PCC was not an OPTION, both getting FORCED on you
OK Ron, I've had to read these various anti-technology rants of yours several times, so I am going to school you on how this works. Because........... well, you don't know what you're talking about.

Out of politeness, I am going to leave alone the irony of posting anti-technology rants on an internet forum.


I am going to break these down point by point.

"SS is an internet site, not a phone site" (paraphrased)

Ok, here's how websites work: A website is built and it is stored on a server. A computer accesses it and displays it to the user using a web browser (Internet Explorer, Firefox, etc.). The website is the same no matter what device is accessing it-tower (traditional computer), laptop or phone. The website doesn't know what kind of device is accessing it.

The only time this is not the case is when a website has a mobile version: Mobile versions of websites are stripped down so that they are more easily viewed on smaller, portable devices (smartphones).

Now, repeat after me: THIS MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO YOU. Here's why:

If I go to Jalopnik - Drive Free or Die on my phone, the website knows I am trying to access Jalopnik on a mobile device and it (the website) redirects my phone's browser to www.m.jalopnik.com. The "m" in the web address obviously means mobile. But, if you are at home on your laptop or desktop and you try to go to www.m.jalopnik.com, the site will recognize that you are not on a mobile device and will redirect your computer's browser to Jalopnik - Drive Free or Die.

So in closing, there is no such thing as a "internet site" versus a "smartphone" site-there are only websites. Do you understand?

Now, smartphone applications (apps) like Tapatalk make no difference to you-they are apps on a phone that allow the phone's browser to display the information it gets from the website's server in a way that's more easily read on a smaller screen. That's it-that's all an app like Tapatalk does.

Ok, on to all of the insults to smartphone users; that they are too lazy to use a computer, they are children who are reduced to sucking their thumbs if they aren't on their smartphones all day, etc. (paraphrasing again)

That BS just has to stop because it is just stupid. Rayzer, myself and multiple others have explained the wonderful opportunities and benefits that mobile computing have brought into our lives and if you don't or can't appreciate them, just don't partake. That's all you have to do-keep your 10 year old computer and your rotary dial phone. All of us enjoying this will not affect your internet experience one iota. I for one am tired of being insulted for taking part in modernity. My phone is a tool of both enjoyment and business for me, I am not a child or an insolent teenager.

"same with the itap crap, if someone post to the site, it should not need a SPECIAL downloaded program to view it. / The problem with apps like the iphone crap is that, someone uses it to upload pics to the site, now poeple on site have to upload the iphone crap to see the pics unless a extra link is provided, sometimes there is, sometimes not, why should anybody have to upload anything, let the phone user fix there phone to be compatible to the net, NOT us net users making our use compatible to the phone, if a app does that fine, If something has to be donwloaded to be compatible to the phone app then NO."

Ok, the above is totally 100% inaccurate and I am going to prove it with the two posts after this one. One post after this one will be posted from my laptop or phone and the next one will be from the other. I dare you to tell me the difference.

Now, what you are referring to are movies-here's why you're confused.

Videos shot on digital formats (meaning no tape) can be shot in many formats: WMV, mpeg, quicktime, etc. There are many others.

Each of those different formats requires a different interface (or "player" in order for your computer to display (play) them.

When you see a video file that's been posted to SS and you can't play it or is says something like "you're missing a plug-in", this doesn't mean it is some special smartphone shot video.

It means someone posted a video in a format that your computer doesn't have a player for. You can download these players for free from their manufacturer's websites.

Repeat after me: Videos you can't watch have nothing to do with smartphones.

"This smart phone crap is what PC correctness was 15 years"


I can not believe I just read someone somehow try to link political correctness to smart phones. I'm just gonna' leave that one alone.




Look here's how it is:

The exact same arguments you are putting forth were made by old fogies 15 years ago........ but they were making them against personal computers or laptops...... like what you're reading this on.

My smartphone lets me run my business on the road, on vacation, at the Ga. Rally and anywhere else. It helps me when I am lost (GPS), it allows me to run my customers credit cards on the spot, etc.

The things I do, if I had to wait to get back to my office to use my PC, would kill my productivity.

You can re-read Rayzers comments above or mine from the now deleted thread where we went around this cartwheel a while back (I have gone and retrieved them and posted them below for you since the thread is now deleted).

In short, before you rant and rave (and random capitalization counts as raving on the internet), make sure you know what you are talking about and you are right.

My old post below:

I have a "real" phone-I can call anyone, anywhere, anytime.

But I can also:

Surf the internet (and with 4G speed when I am within a 4G network area) and do all the stuff that allows: I can find businesses and phone numbers without having to call someone who is sitting in front of a computer, I can find restaurants, banks, bars, hospitals and anything else.

I can watch youtube, netflix, hulu or read the news from CNN, Fox, whatever, when I am sitting somewhere and need to pass the time.

I don't need to buy a GPS unit because my phone has a 4"+ screen and has standard maps and Google maps, all tied in via GPS.

I can send and respond to emails from my hotmail, gmail or corporate email accounts.

I can take credit card payments for my new business, without having to have a swiping machine with me, so anywhere I go I can accept payments.

I can shoot 8mp pictures and shoot HD video so I no longer have to take a camera with me unless I need something specialized (wide angle shots, etc.).

The phone's flash will double as a flashlight, so I can find stuff in the dark without having to find a flashlight.

All of my phone's contacts are constantly sync'd to my google account, so if the phone is destroyed or lost, I won't lose a single contact or any of their info.

I can sit anywhere on earth that I have a signal, plug my laptop into the phone and stream internet access into the laptop. For no extra cost.

Plus, hundreds of other things like constant access to my google calendar, so I can schedule a meeting with 3 people and invite them to the meeting and the calendar will automatically show the meeting at home on my machine AND email the other people an invite or reminders about the meeting that they can even accept or decline.

In short, it's a laptop in my pocket.

Tell me again why this is so awful?
 

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Ok Ron, where did I post this from? Phone or laptop? could be anywhere.
 

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That is what I said, some post fine, like the above, but some post show up the ipad or i tap logo where the pic would be, a app is needed to be downloaded to view the pic because the pic was taken with a iphone, sometimes there is a added link address so the pic can be viewed, sometimes no link. I should not have to download anything to be able to see the presented pic in IE windows and the SITE is a windows site, not a apple site, not a android site, ect,.If someone wants to post something on site, it should be compatible with the site, NOT require others to download something so it is.

sorry I type slow
 

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The site is created in HTML, Ron. The browser has nothing to do with it. Google HTML and you'll understand what Clinto is talking about.

Clinto: we don't build mobile sites anymore, we are using HTML 5 and the responsive framework in Drupal 7. It is really sweet. Fits all sized devices without redirects and makes changes global in the site.
 

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Guys, re-read this whole thread. It seems very pointless to be arguing over something that's not going to change, you both have valid points. BUT arguing about them isn't going to solve a thing. I for one post on this site from mobile products and computers, TapaTalk and the SS site. If your uploading correctly they media will show up. There is no such thing as an "apple" site or a "windows" site. Apple and window and droid are simply operating systems, rarely do they effect how content is viewed and uploaded.

As to the younger age needing there cell phones. That's not true at all. I am 20 years old, love my iphone and iPad, but in no way shape or form are they attached to my side. Where I work I can't have a cell phone, and that's federal law. And I LOVE not having that thing bug me every single second. So please don't group everyone together
 

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What happens will happen
but NO MATTER WHAT

EVERYBODY HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS, and thank you aLL for being SSers :beer:
 

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Ron, Your reply's to these post reminds me of my dad, He refused to update his cell phone until they sent him a letter saying analog phones wont work anymore, He refused to send or receive texts, Was anti I phone. Well it took his grand kids to enlighten him on the benefits of modern technology and now he's starting to send picture texts, use the internet on his phone etc. If my dad will use a I phone or smart phone anyone will, hes old school to say the least!!!


Merry Christmas!!!!:D
 

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Ron, you need to read the TM for the Internet.

:)

Peace, brother. Merry Christmas to all. John
 

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When people post, "I'm on my phone, so I can not search or use the tms, and I need an answer now", but are not indeed in an "emergency" situation,I think that is annoying and rude.

I think there needs to be some level of "smart phone politically correctness", in that manner.

I feel that if your phone will not(or you don't know how to use it) provide the performance of a laptop or desktop computer, We do not need to offer "extra" help to you. Especially when you most likely own or have access to a computer, somewhere. Again, "emergencies" are understandable.
 

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When people post, "I'm on my phone, so I can not search or use the tms, and I need an answer now", but are not indeed in an "emergency" situation,I think that is annoying and rude.

I think there needs to be some level of "smart phone politically correctness", in that manner.

I feel that if your phone will not(or you don't know how to use it) provide the performance of a laptop or desktop computer, We do not need to offer "extra" help to you. Especially when you most likely own or have access to a computer, somewhere. Again, "emergencies" are understandable.
Wow!! yet another anti smart phone comment! You guys would do better to catch up with the new
technology instead of running away from it.

Posted from my Galaxy s2 smart phone!!!

Merry Christmas to all!!
 

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For posting simple replies, tapatalk is the best.

Using my droid based phone with it's internal browser, I can open up the TM section of the site. Since the TM's are all in PDF format, you'll have to ensure your phone has adobe reader installed (it's free). But I can easily open the PDF's as well from my phone.
 
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