Engine manufacture?

[whatadeuce]

The conversation went like this
ME I want to buy patrts for my M35A2 engine please
PARTS MAN What make engine?
ME, I knew youd ask that, but the nameplate is worn, all I can make out are stamped numbers
TRUCK SALESMAN you have either a white, herculies, or continental engine, and they are all the same!

ME So what do I do now when the parts man askes me? Will the stamped numbers tell me anything?

 

[Warthog]

What parts man are you asking for parts? Call a surplus vendor like Memphis and they don't care as all the engines are the same. That is assuming it isn't a gasser or 427 diesel

 

[Warthog]

Post the stamped numbers. It will tell us what engine you have.

 

[whatadeuce]

Thank you, and it was a Memphis parts man who asked me. I have also found out the engine number from the seller, its a LD-465-1C . I will get the stamped number tomorrow. Than k You

 

[m16ty]

More than likely the parts man was wanting to know the model number instead of the manufacturer. You should be able to call him back and tell him you've got a LD-465-1C and be good. If he was a good parts man you should be able to just tell him it's a non-turbo multifuel and he would know what the model number is.

 

[whatadeuce]

Thank you m16ty...

 

[whatadeuce]

Hello my16ty, and warthog, my stamped number is 3878995 Thank You

 

[hndrsonj]

Hello my16ty, and warthog, my stamped number is 3878995 Thank You

You need the LD-465-1C number.

 

[whatadeuce]

Hello nndrsonj, and is that number also on the engine nameplate? I sit also a stamped number?

 

[rosco]

Besides the Number issue, Isn't the manufacture of the engines, White? They were building engines for tractors, long before they won a contract to build engines for the military.

 

[whatadeuce]

Hello rosco, And the dealer who sold me this truck says that there are three engine manufacturers, White, and also Herculies and Continental. I think I shall take my magnifying glass and look at the tag again, maybe Ill see some more...

 

[SCSG-G4]

Who made it does not really matter - all the parts interchange. What you need to really know is if the block has a casting in it that says "TD", which stands for Thick Deck, the more modern version. As long as it's an LD-465, it can be a turbo or non-turbo, or with a whole bunch of slightly different parts, an LDS (super turbo) engine.

 

[hndrsonj]

As long as it's an LD-465, it can be a turbo or non-turbo, or with a whole bunch of slightly different parts, an LDS (super turbo) engine.

If it's a LD it should be a non turbo unless someone added one. Is it was origionally a turbo it would be a LDT. All you should need to order parts is the engine designation. The manufacturers are all the same, and I can't think of any differences in parts for a TD block (if you are doing head gaskets they should give you the new ones regardless).

LDS are either LDS-427 or LDS-465. The 427 are early motors that are pretty rare. The LDS-465's are from 5-tons.

There is also (I believe) a 210 HP multi from the Ford 8x8's that has alot of specific parts to it but does bolt into a deuce also.

 

[Checkmate]

Hercules

Just going to share a little bit of information that I found out by using Google.

Hercules is still in existence. They are more a sales company for Perkins Diesels, but I looked through their site and found... the attached picture.

Also I read the fine print of this page :Hercules Military Engines
Which basically says that Hercules actually wants you to call them if you are really into a project with these engines and want engineering assistance.

The main point of posting this is that Hercules also sells remanufactured/new (from what I can tell) parts for Non-turbo, Turbo, and Super-Turbo Mutli-fuel engines. But knowing this and having a big enough wallet to pay for the reman/new parts are 2 different things.

I do not have any MV experience, but enough typing and staring stupidly at a glowing screen can get some useful information on just about anything.

 

[whatadeuce]

Thank You checkmate, this is very helpful. I shall contact them and see what they have to offer. Thanks again...

 

[hndrsonj]

Thank You checkmate, this is very helpful. I shall contact them and see what they have to offer. Thanks again...

What parts are you looking for? I am betting Hercules will be VERY expensive....

 

[whatadeuce]

Hello hndrsonj, And I was looking for injector lines. I have already purchased them from Memphis Equipment, and I may need an injector pump for my M109...( I hope not)

 

[hndrsonj]

Hello hndrsonj, And I was looking for injector lines. I have already purchased them from Memphis Equipment, and I may need an injector pump for my M109...( I hope not)

TNJ Murray and SS members.....

 

[m16ty]

Injector lines should be the same for all the multifuel engines. The engines that were put in a deuce are as follows-
1) gas engine (M35)
2) LD-465, multifuel engine without turbo (M35A2)
3)LDS-427, early multifuel with turbo (M35A1)
4)LDT-465, late multifuel with turbo (M35A2)
5)LDS-465, multifuel with turbo ( this engine was actually designed for the 5-ton but can be found in a deuce from time to time)

 

[whatadeuce]

Well now! I see I do not have an M35A2 afterall, because my truck does not have the turbo. So I have an M35A1 ! Thank you for that clarification. By the way, I have already purchased a NOS turbo, and a kit to complete the turbo installation...Just love that whisteling