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NDCC tire siping

cranetruck

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I agree, I have read about that too.

Interestingly, the almost bald tires in the rear (I'm getting new ones :)), runs much cooler than the tires with heavy lugs.
On my recent trip to GA/FL the front tires and the laundry trailer tires, all fairly new got very hot to the touch, while the balding ones stayed just warm.
 

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cranetruck said:
I agree, I have read about that too.

Interestingly, the almost bald tires in the rear (I'm getting new ones :)), runs much cooler than the tires with heavy lugs.
On my recent trip to GA/FL the front tires and the laundry trailer tires, all fairly new got very hot to the touch, while the balding ones stayed just warm.
don't they have less weight on them? 4 tires in the rear 2 in the front. I can't remember your empty weights.
 

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Grooving of NDCC steers.

My 816 came 'fresh' from service/base storage - on road truck steer tyres. Looked girlie so I replaced them with 2 new ones. Recently I got some more 'new' new ones but wanted to improve the steering end's performance in inclement weather and seeing as it came with one pair of the rear duals that had circumfrential cuts across the outer lugs, I thought it would be ok to copy that basic idea.
My local tyre dude had the gun and did them for $30.
NDCC from Army............ NDCC + grooves............. closeup of groove.
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These are grooves not "sipes". Those are very narrow cuts, radially from the center out as seen on car "winter/snow" tyres.

Did a search - It works!! NB. The age of this thread .. But still relevant, so I'll add my 2c ...
 
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I grooved my tires for this past winter and the improvement in all kinds of weather was phenominal! The pattern I did was basicly a giant Y with a grove down the center of the Y. Kind of hard to explain without pictures and sincenopicsI guess this thread is worthless since I don't own a camera.aua
I'll crawl back under my rock now and shut up. But if your ever in Ober Indiana feel free to look me up and I'll show you.

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I just bought a groover for this exact reason. More traction. Ill be watching this thread closely.
What ever you do remember to do each lug exactly the same so you don't throw off the balance of the tire. Make sure to have plenty of extra blades on hand and practice on an old tire. with the pattern I decided on it took me over an hour to do each tire, but it was well worth the effort. I used an Ideal tire groover with a #4 head and blades. Not to narrow and not to wide. good luck.

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That is what worries me most. Tire balance.
It worried me also, just measure and use a paint pen or white crayon and mark out the tire carefuly and treat each lug the same and you just about can't screw it up. Do one lug at a time one tire at a time and have fun. I cut my grooves the depth of my lugs don't cut too deep. You would be suprised of how little weight actually comes off the tire. In the sticky wet snow or even dry snow the groves cleaned out great even at slow speeds.

Denny
 

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A crayola crayon works just as good and lasts longer. Just steal it from the kids when they are not looking.:whistle: They will go nuts looking for it and will keep them occupied just looking for it for the time it takes to do 1 tire. Just dont let them see you using it. :grin: Grab a different color each day and put the one you used back.:whistle:It will drive them:cookoo:and buy you some peace and quiet. (note: it will not work on older kids) After you mark it all out you can check your pattern before you cut anything. No lumps or bumps in mine, smooth as silk at all speeds so far.

I will not get into a debate about which tires are best and which ones have the best pattern of the new tires. All I am saying is the NDCC tires can vastly be improved upon with some thought and a little time and elbow grease. I wish I could take a picture of my tires to show you my pattern but I dont own a camera and would not have any idea how to post them if I did. I AM COMPUTER ILLETERATE.

Denny
 
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