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Actually they are very affective in the primary cleaning of particles. That's why manufactures waste there money on them.
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I agree with Jeepsinker. I hardly call a screen to keep "gravel" out of the fuel system a filter. Yes it does catch the large chunks but that's about it. Nothing high tech about that.
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Don't get me wrong Rusty, i would not do away with my in tank screen, but only catching large particles does not qualify it as a filter in my book. However minute it may be, there is a difference in a screen and a filter.
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What ? A filter is a filter, where it removes large or small particles. Though the in tank "screen" as you call it really does filter out a lot of stuff. Just for grins and giggles why don't you take it off for awhile after you replace the main filter (keep this filter for later) . Then with a new main filter and the "screen" off run it for a month. After a month, replace the main filter and cut it in half. Now compare this filter to the old filter. I did this in Tech School. You can tell us what your results where, then I'll tell you what my results where.
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No one is arguing the screen doesn't serve a purpose.
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Yeah no need for that. The results would be obvious. This is simply a tomato/ tomaato thing it seems.
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My point was I never saw a system that didn't have at least two fuel filters, weather you consider a "screen" a filter or not it still filters.
So I take it no one wants to try the experiment ? Well I'll tell you my results. After I pulled the filter and cut it in half I compared it to the old filter which had been using the fuel pump screen.
The new filter just after one month was totally scummed up with filth ! The old filter was still usable . My instructor told me THERE was my answer.
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Yeah man that should be obvious. We all know the screen is important. It is simply semantics here. On another note, I have many many 5 tons here that only have one fuel filter and no screen in the tanks here right now. Approximately 20 of them, and they are A2 models.
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Like I said before I don't know about the 5 ton units. I still would use more then one fuel filter though. But hey, it's your engine !
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http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/0905dp_green_diesel_corp_fuel_injectors/
I don't know about stupid.
Aaron with the correct filters the Deuce has a good system and outher than maybe switching to spin on's for the ease I think it is silly to get rid of the Three filter system. More important thing I think is to add something to the fuel to bring up cetane and replace the lost sulfer for lubrisity. I over dose all my trucks and NAPA has a bottle for 9 bucks and I add it to one tank full. If the bottel says it does 100 gal. I add it to fifty.
I don't know about stupid.
Aaron with the correct filters the Deuce has a good system and outher than maybe switching to spin on's for the ease I think it is silly to get rid of the Three filter system. More important thing I think is to add something to the fuel to bring up cetane and replace the lost sulfer for lubrisity. I over dose all my trucks and NAPA has a bottle for 9 bucks and I add it to one tank full. If the bottel says it does 100 gal. I add it to fifty.
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These engines have already out lived some of the members here and they will probely out live most of of us.
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Looks like green diesel corp was more smoke and mirrors than reality. Not saying they didn't develope an injection system but it seems that's about as far as they got.
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That's because the deuce has used 3 fuel filters ! Now about the longevity of the Cummins with just one fuel filter, well the jury is still out .
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The cummins would probably outlast all the others without a fuel filter anyway, assuming that there was a test group of engines run with no filters.
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The Cummins 250 is a good engine, but no engine can run without filters. Also how often do the injectors have to be replaced ? On our Cummins engines that's around 50,000 to 60,000 miles.
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I know, I know, I'm just trying to get your goat now. Looks like I did.
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Your so BAAAAAAAAD ! Now give me back the goat !
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View attachment Scan0018.pdfI found this from AMBAC. It says that the final fuel filter should be a 5 micron on the deuce multifuel.
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Can the Moderators please remove the oil diagram ! I hit the wrong button and now I cannot remove the stupid picture ! (Maybe I'm the stupid one since I cannot remove the picture)
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Does wix or Baldwin even make a 5 micron filter in the old cannister style filters? Most of them I see that fit the deuce are 10 micron. My spin on's are 6 micron.
The cat filters I referenced are 3 micron nominal. With a way higher efficiency rating of anything else on the market except high end specialty filters that are absolute rated.
The cat filters I referenced are 3 micron nominal. With a way higher efficiency rating of anything else on the market except high end specialty filters that are absolute rated.