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On Sunday 6/1, I took my M1009 to a shop to get the front end aligned. The technicians used every tool in their arsenal to break the passenger side tie rod adjuster loose – a 2 foot long crescent wrench with a 4 foot breaker bar, a torch, and a 16 lb sledge hammer. Their efforts achieved absolutely no movement in the tie rod bolts. They told me the threads are shot, and there was no way for them to align the front end. The manager told me to replace the tie rod assembly including the tie rod tube. (A side note: you know the situation is dire when you witness all 5 guys in the shop stop what they’re doing to come over and help. Three of them leaned on a breaker bar while one held the torch to the tie rod tube and the other made sure the truck wasn't going to burst into a ball of flames! Not good…)
This led me to seek out the parts and part numbers. I needed the driver’s side tie rod end, the tie rod tube, and the passenger tie rod end. I called O’Reillys, Car Quest, and Advance. I spoke with the guy that works the Commercial orders at Advance (George) – he almost always knows how to find all the oddball parts I need for my military vehicles. I was able to get the part numbers for the tie rod ends. When it came to the tie rod tube, I had him and everyone else stumped. I asked George to look up the tube under every conceivable name that it could be listed under. Alas, he was unable to find the parts. I searched the CUCV Forum multiple times using the built-in search function as well as doing site:steelsoldiers.com searches on Google. I was unable to locate the tie rod tube part number. I did find multiple threads regarding M1008 tie rod part numbers. This was not very useful to me, though.
I looked up the part numbers in the -20P manual. On Page 229 Figure 102, I saw that I need numbers 3-9. The tie rod tube is listed as #7, and the GM part number is 14026804. The description is TIE ROD, STEERING. I took this part number and called George. He tried cross referencing it, and was unable to find anything. I also called the other parts houses I spoke to earlier. They were unable to find that part. Then, I tried multiple Google searches to cross reference it myself. I even found a couple of web sites that allow you to cross reference the part. I learned that the part had been discontinued.
Finding absolutely nothing and not knowing where to turn next, I came up with a brilliant idea: call Federal Mogul (makers of Moog parts). I found a phone number on the corporate web site, pleaded my case, and was transferred to a technician in the Chassis Department. I explained my situation. He told me that Federal Mogul no longer produces the tie rod tube for the axles on my K5. He explained that they do still produce the tie rod tube (steering center link tie rod end) for the Dana 60 axles. In order to use that steering center link, I have to replace the entire assembly at the same time. Thankfully, that is EXACTLY what I want to do! He said that the assembly fits perfectly on the corporate 10 bolt(M1009) axle I have.
Here are the Moog part numbers for the Dana 60 axle:
DS893 Steering Center Link Tie Rod End
ES2011R Right (Passenger) Tie Rod End
ES2012S Tie Rod End Sleeve
Note that the driver side tie rod end is built into the bar. The passenger tie rod is attached to the bar using the sleeve.
I also will replace the steering stabilizer. I had two options here – Monroe or Rancho. I paid the extra $25 and bought the Rancho. I like the way it’s designed.
Monroe Part Number SC2913
Rancho Part Number RS97325
I ordered the parts yesterday, and will receive them tomorrow (I LOVE Amazon Prime
)
Saturday morning, I will replace the components. I’ll update this thread with my progress. There’s an 80% chance of afternoon rain tomorrow. Hopefully, I won’t get washed out.
Note to Moderators: Please feel free to add this information to the CUCV Wiki, the CUCV Sticky, or the CUCV helpful threads. I really want to save others the aggravation I've experienced in the past couple of days.
This led me to seek out the parts and part numbers. I needed the driver’s side tie rod end, the tie rod tube, and the passenger tie rod end. I called O’Reillys, Car Quest, and Advance. I spoke with the guy that works the Commercial orders at Advance (George) – he almost always knows how to find all the oddball parts I need for my military vehicles. I was able to get the part numbers for the tie rod ends. When it came to the tie rod tube, I had him and everyone else stumped. I asked George to look up the tube under every conceivable name that it could be listed under. Alas, he was unable to find the parts. I searched the CUCV Forum multiple times using the built-in search function as well as doing site:steelsoldiers.com searches on Google. I was unable to locate the tie rod tube part number. I did find multiple threads regarding M1008 tie rod part numbers. This was not very useful to me, though.
I looked up the part numbers in the -20P manual. On Page 229 Figure 102, I saw that I need numbers 3-9. The tie rod tube is listed as #7, and the GM part number is 14026804. The description is TIE ROD, STEERING. I took this part number and called George. He tried cross referencing it, and was unable to find anything. I also called the other parts houses I spoke to earlier. They were unable to find that part. Then, I tried multiple Google searches to cross reference it myself. I even found a couple of web sites that allow you to cross reference the part. I learned that the part had been discontinued.
Finding absolutely nothing and not knowing where to turn next, I came up with a brilliant idea: call Federal Mogul (makers of Moog parts). I found a phone number on the corporate web site, pleaded my case, and was transferred to a technician in the Chassis Department. I explained my situation. He told me that Federal Mogul no longer produces the tie rod tube for the axles on my K5. He explained that they do still produce the tie rod tube (steering center link tie rod end) for the Dana 60 axles. In order to use that steering center link, I have to replace the entire assembly at the same time. Thankfully, that is EXACTLY what I want to do! He said that the assembly fits perfectly on the corporate 10 bolt(M1009) axle I have.
Here are the Moog part numbers for the Dana 60 axle:
DS893 Steering Center Link Tie Rod End
ES2011R Right (Passenger) Tie Rod End
ES2012S Tie Rod End Sleeve
Note that the driver side tie rod end is built into the bar. The passenger tie rod is attached to the bar using the sleeve.
I also will replace the steering stabilizer. I had two options here – Monroe or Rancho. I paid the extra $25 and bought the Rancho. I like the way it’s designed.
Monroe Part Number SC2913
Rancho Part Number RS97325
I ordered the parts yesterday, and will receive them tomorrow (I LOVE Amazon Prime
)Saturday morning, I will replace the components. I’ll update this thread with my progress. There’s an 80% chance of afternoon rain tomorrow. Hopefully, I won’t get washed out.
Note to Moderators: Please feel free to add this information to the CUCV Wiki, the CUCV Sticky, or the CUCV helpful threads. I really want to save others the aggravation I've experienced in the past couple of days.
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