Florida auction

[Blackmagic94]

Looks like prices came up again


25.5k
25.5k
30.5k

and a bunch of low 20ks

I bought another two 998s today and one trailer

 

[MWMULES]

And in other parts of the country $17,500.

 

[123mack]

I was watching those along with the rest of the auction. Funny how on two of them someone would throw in a bid in the last 10 seconds and extend the time, must have thought they were on ebay. They must have went high because they were so nice and shiny.

 

[gem1410]

In Florida it Lookes like someone does not know military stuff is not shiny--I think I saw chrome curb feelers on one

 

[FloridaAKM]

Florida auctions for some reason, seem to double or triple prices. I refuse to even look @ them anymore.

 

[Brian Dumais]

The ones in florida looked pretty clean. Brian

 

[turnkey]

The MV"s for sale are with a salavage title I bet.

 

[m16ty]

The MV"s for sale are with a salavage title I bet.

No, they don't have a title at all.

GovPlanet will give you a bill of sale for a fee but that's all you get.

 

[greenjeepster]

So I posted back in October 2014 that these where cleared for public sale and would be going to auction within a few months, and everybody basically scoffed, and than the mods shut the thread down.... so here I am to gloat... My sources were right.

On a different note... prices will come down once the shininess wears off... DOD has somewhere between 200-300K HMMWVs still in their possession to be surplussed out.

 

[patracy]

So I posted back in October 2014 that these where cleared for public sale and would be going to auction within a few months, and everybody basically scoffed, and than the mods shut the thread down.... so here I am to gloat... My sources were right.

On a different note... prices will come down once the shininess wears off... DOD has somewhere between 200-300K HMMWVs still in their possession to be surplussed out.

Well you are correct, it did turn out that they came up for auction. But along the same argument. Last year we were scared that the EPA was going to shut down the entire hobby for us. That's why we don't allow hearsay to be published until it turns into fact.

And your numbers are a little high. There were around 280K HMMWV variants purchased by the military. Figure 80K of them have been lost in war or what not. 100K of them have been demilled or given to LEO. That still leaves around 100K of them out there. The question is, how many of them are armored. (Which won't go up for sale)

 

[swbradley1]

So I posted back in October 2014 that these where cleared for public sale and would be going to auction within a few months, and everybody basically scoffed, and than the mods shut the thread down.... so here I am to gloat... My sources were right.

On a different note... prices will come down once the shininess wears off... DOD has somewhere between 200-300K HMMWVs still in their possession to be surplussed out.

Several people are gloating about it. You also were not the first and all the people who have been saying the same thing for years were correct as well.

 

[greenjeepster]

Yes numbers are pure speculation... god only knows how many ended up in FMS. Many did get up armored.... 80 K lost in war is too high of an estimate I think. Official US causalities (death and injury) in Iraq is under 33 K, even if every one of those were in an IED/HMMWV incident we would only be at 10 K vehicles maybe. Seeing as we only sent somewhere between 10-15 K HMMWVs into Iraq and around 5K into Afghanistan I would estimate losses in the 5-8 K range.


SW: It was the first time I ever said it, so I claim extra credit for 1. predicting its occurrence, 2. predicting it to happen in the time frame I said it would. okay...done gloating.

 

[patracy]

Well I meant 80K of them lost in war, given to other countries, exc.

 

[Recovry4x4]

The big question is "What is a decent price for an off road use only HMMWV"? This next question is only my curiosity but I wonder how long sales will continue when the Gov't catches wind of these "off road use only" machines start showing up on our highways? I'll save nickels when I can lawfully register one for street use!

 

[m16ty]

The big question is "What is a decent price for an off road use only HMMWV"?

Way less than what they are selling for.

I won't be bidding unless they drop below $5K (for a good runner) or they remove the "off-road" restriction. I'd love to have one but "off-road only" really limits you.

On one hand I think surely the people in charge aren't naive enough to think that people won't try to work around the restriction. On the other I think that there are people that are just looking for an excuse to pull the plug again and seeing them on the road will give them some good ammo.

 

[Blackmagic94]

I honestly dont think the DoD cares about the off road only portion, I think it has far more to do with AM General throwing a pity party over the idea of cheap surplus HMMWVs then someone at Uncle Sam caring.

Especially if you consider that AM G tanked their Humvee C project that was stated for 1/15

 

[73m819]

With all these non highway HMMWVs showing up, I see the states when faced with the argument "why are these not legal when the ones that are out there already are legal when they are the SAME vehicle" up to this point in time there is relatively FEW legal HMMWVs out there, with the MAJOR dump that is going on, there is going to be a BUNCH asking the above question, there is a very GOOD chance the state DMVs will say "you are right, we see your point, so if the FEDERAL GOVERMENT says this NEW batch is UNSAFE for the highways, then the others that have highway registration WERE REGISTERED WRONG" and PULL the on road registration, this would be the easiest way to handle this issue, state DMVs like EASY, not fighting over every new HMMWV brought in to get registered.

 

[greenjeepster]

The real question is what is preventing people from sending the bill of sale to Florida and getting a title, or just registering them in a non-title state?

 

[patracy]

The real question is what is preventing people from sending the bill of sale to Florida and getting a title, or just registering them in a non-title state?

There's more to obtaining a title than just presenting a bill of sale. The vehicles sold are sold without a SF-97. Then there's the matter of people buying them under the agreement that they were not to be titled. Which could be viewed as a breach.

 

[DatGuyC]

There's more to obtaining a title than just presenting a bill of sale. The vehicles sold are sold without a SF-97. Then there's the matter of people buying them under the agreement that they were not to be titled. Which could be viewed as a breach.

There isn't the agreement that you wouldn't get them titled, only "the Humvee is not roadworthy and agrees that Humvee is for off-highway use only." It doesn't say you cant get them titled and registered, or that you wouldn't even drive them on regular roads.