FLU419 SEE HMMH HME Owners group

[The FLU farm]

And on top of this the Japanese had to add 12mm socket (instead of 13mm) for an M8 bolt.

Yeah, forgot about that one. I wanted ​to forget about that one. Thanks a lot, alpine44.

 

[The FLU farm]

Edit: Ended up with a duplicate post.

 

[Migginsbros]

Don´t panic. The nominal socketsize is 46mm or 1 13/16 . Our 46mm measured 46.5mm and the 1 13/16 (46.0375mm) will be also a little bit more.
So it works. We choose 3/4 drive, so it fits to the Stanley hydr. impact wrench (std. for HMMH) to get them off and to our 4 feet torque wrench.

 

[General Hood]

So you got a SEE just to horse around from the looks of it.
Anyway, the tank filters are quite expensive, but thankfully they appear to be cleanable. At least that's what I did, then plopped them back in.
Oh, and do consider using AW-32 instead of 10W motor oil.

Agreed, AW-32 is the way to go

 

[peakbagger]

Luckily Harbor Freight 3/4" drive sockets usually work and are cheap . I also have 4' 3/4" breaker bar for times like those

 

[911joeblow]

Luckily Harbor Freight 3/4" drive sockets usually work and are cheap . I also have 4' 3/4" breaker bar for times like those

Unfortunately I think the Chinese took the term 'breaker bar' to mean something else as I have broken every one I got from there.

 

[peakbagger]

I have had mixed luck with Chinese tools, some have been pretty beefy.

I am not really sure where my breaker bar is from.

 

[Speedwoble]

Breaker bar

I could not get mine loose, even with a 5 ft cheater bar. I ended up putting a chain around the cheater and using the loader hydraulics to pull it. I bent the 1" Harbor Freight breaker. Eventually we were able to get it loose with a 1" Ingersol rand pneumatic impact. I will have to upload pictures.
My bolts were 1 1/4" -7 grade 8. I am replacing them with 5.5" Bolts from McMaster Carr.

 

[anthkey]

looking into a hydraulic impact wrench ... what is the psi out put of the hydraulic system of the 419 SEE

 

[patrol578]

8gpm@2450psi (@2000 engine rpm)

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[The FLU farm]

looking into a hydraulic impact wrench ... what is the psi out put of the hydraulic system of the 419 SEE

The Stanley 3/4-inch (that's supposed to come with the HMMH) works great. Not so sure that the front hydraulics are enough to run the 1-inch version - either that or I have a bum one.

 

[The FLU farm]

Luckily Harbor Freight 3/4" drive sockets usually work and are cheap . I also have 4' 3/4" breaker bar for times like those

I've had good luck with the HF sockets. I'm not about to subject the chrome Mac ones to an impact, even if they weren't 12-point, as those may cost as much a piece these days as a set of HF sockets.
Breaker bars? It's been my experience that you can put 800 ft.-lbs. on a breaker bar and not get near the result of a 400 ft.-lb. impact wrench.

 

[patrol578]

The Stanley 3/4-inch (that's supposed to come with the HMMH) works great. Not so sure that the front hydraulics are enough to run the 1-inch version - either that or I have a bum one.

You may have a dud. Stanley's own manual for the 1" drive IW16 says 8gpm is optimal flow at 1500-2000psi.

 

[Speedwoble]

I removed the loader yesterday. On mine, the bolts are 1 1/4"-7TPI in ~4.75" length. I am replacing it with 5.5" bolts from McMaster Carr.
A 1" Ingersole pneumatic impact could not touch it. With a 5' cheater on a 1" breaker, I couldn't budge them. Ended up wrapping a chain around the loader and using bucket curl to pull on the breaker... and bent it. The problem appeared to be rust between the bolt shank and the clearance hole, not the threads.
While they measure nominally at 1 13/16",I couldn't get that socket on more than 50%. Only the 1 7/8" fit completely.
If only I could post pictures from my phone....

 

[Another Ahab]

A 1" Ingersole pneumatic impact could not touch it. With a 5' cheater on a 1" breaker, I couldn't budge them. Ended up wrapping a chain around the loader and using bucket curl to pull on the breaker... and bent it. The problem appeared to be rust between the bolt shank and the clearance hole, not the threads.

Was the date you tried all of this the first day of April?

Because I'm wondering if maybe a buddy of yours didn't spot-welded it on you the day before...

 

[alpine44]

Are the Continental 12.5 x 20 12-Ply Military Tread Tires offered by Eastern Surplus any good for the FLU419?

 

[The FLU farm]

You may have a dud. Stanley's own manual for the 1" drive IW16 says 8gpm is optimal flow at 1500-2000psi.

Thanks, that's what I suspected. Been meaning to look it up myself for some time now, but nothing SEE related has made it onto the to-do list recently.

 

[The FLU farm]

Are the Continental 12.5 x 20 12-Ply Military Tread Tires offered by Eastern Surplus any good for the FLU419?

You may want to find out if they're any good for anything. While 12.5x20 doesn't indicate that they are radials, if they are, ask what the manufacturing date is.

 

[The FLU farm]

Speaking of tires, today the SEE got to go to the post office, first pavement trip on the new Super Swampers. Typical bias ply flat spotting after having been sitting for a month, or so.
Then I broke a personal record. Looked at the speedometer and found myself going 40 mph, without even noticing.
With the Michelins I preferred to stay at 30 mph or less.
Much improved traction and them not being radials were my main reasons for switching tires, the improved road manners were a welcome side effect. I'll take flat spotting over squirrelly handling any day.

Another thing I learned to day is that the backhoe can hold an amazing amount of water in its structure when folded forward but not leaned over to the side in normal fashion. On the other hand, there was nothing in the bucket since it was curled out while parked.

 

[88FLU419]

I noticed the same thing when I changed my tires. It is unbelievable how
much of the poor road manners is due to the stock tires.