M35a1 Advice

[Elk1111]

First time posting. I accidentally put this under modifications earlier but anyway here goes again. I just bought a 1963 Studabaker M35 a1 that needs a lot of work. I seems like all of the parts are for a2s. Are the parts interchangeable? Right now the truck only starts with a gas soaked rag. I’m really hoping it’s not the IP. The fuel tank was full of muck and something that didn’t smell like diesel so I’m going to clean the fuel system first. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Mrmag1]

Congratulations! I am only saying this to be helpful as my knowledge is thin, but search those threads and use that search function.

https://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_www_deuce_m35.php
http://www.militarytrader.com/military-vehicles/dating-deuce-g-742-2-12-ton-cargo-truck-production

These articles will give you basic differences, but on this site there are threads that discuss the differences that you may not find in the TMs. Oh also if all else fails compare part numbers in the TMs for both models and you may be surprised to find that there are a lot of similar parts. Manufactures of military vehicles don’t like to make up new parts all the time and the military likes common parts so repairs are easy and part stocks are not complicated and of too much variety.

 

[Mrmag1]

Also this.

https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?37996-M35A1-v-M35A2

 

[Katahdin]

An actual A1 is somewhat rare, most were upgraded to A2s. What does the engine data plate say? You'll find it on the passenger side of the block.

As for advice, absolutely clean the tank and replace all the filters. You'll also want to replace the fuel pump hose inside the tank, and there is a fuse on top of the tank for the pump you'll want to check as well.

We also need to see some pictures!

 

[Captaincarrier]

Welcome Aboard !

 

[Elk1111]

Thank you for the information. The engine plate tag says Continental 427 on it I will have to figure out how to post some pictures. I’m not that good at this technology stuff. That’s why a 55 year old truck suits me.The truck needs a lot of work and the bed is not original. It has a homemade flat bed on it. It has a newer lift pump that does work if it is not sitting in grey sludge. I picked it up for $1000 because it didn’t start.

 

[Mrmag1]

It will be fun watching you bring this girl back to life, an M35A1 is on the hard to find side of things.

 

[fsearls92]

Seeing you are in Las Cruces, we have a good amount of m35 parts locally if you need something.

 

[Katahdin]

That's cool, the LDS-427 is definitely an A1. If I saw one at that price I'd grab it too!

Most parts, filters, injection pump threads, etc you read about here will apply to your A1.

The main difference between the A1 and A2 engines was displacement. By adding displacement to create the naturally aspirated LD-465, it got the same HP as a turbo-charged LDS-427. Same HP, but cheaper to make, etc. Then later the EPA forced the military to put turbos on the LD-465s anyway to clean up exhaust smoke.

You should have a Type G injection pump. This pump does not have a FDC (Fuel Density Compensator). Fuel adjustment rate is a little different but well documented. I think it uses the same HH (Hydraulic Head) as well.

 

[Mrmag1]

I thought we added turbos to just make the visual footprint of the truck less. I mean in the old videos you could see them coming from miles away.

 

[DavidWymore]

I am a huge A1 nerd and am dying to see pics. I'll be back after work to give you some tips.

In the meantime, a search for M35A1 will turn up some info.

Somewhat rare indeed, though the differences are slight and 99% of parts will interchange.

 

[kubotaman]

Weren't the A1s bad engines and prone to blowing head gaskets?

 

[NDT]

Weren't the A1s bad engines and prone to blowing head gaskets?

Kinda. But talk about rollin' coal. They rolled coal before it was cool . . .

 

[Katahdin]

The M35's REO OA-331 engine made peak horsepower at 3200rpm -- 600rpm more than the A1's lds-427. Many of those early multifuel head gaskets could've been blown due to operator error.

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[Tracer]

Thank you for the information. The engine plate tag says Continental 427 on it I will have to figure out how to post some pictures. I’m not that good at this technology stuff. That’s why a 55 year old truck suits me.The truck needs a lot of work and the bed is not original. It has a homemade flat bed on it. It has a newer lift pump that does work if it is not sitting in grey sludge. I picked it up for $1000 because it didn’t start.

Back several years ago, Barstow Truck Parts had an LDS 427 new in the can. When the owner John Rajacich passed away, his son just scrapped everything. To bad. Most of what I've heard about the LDS 427 is, most are old and they haven't been well maintained due to lack of parts, so they get parked and left to rot, or they get replaced with an LDT. Love to see some pictures of your truck.

 

[Elk1111]

This truck is not going to impress visually. It looks like an old farm truck. New Mexico Teche used it to haul things and put a Homemade flat bed on it and a role cage inside the cab. My friends think I was nuts for buying it, but it looks fun to me. I’ve heard there is an upgraded head gasket for a 427. Does anybody know where I can get one?

 

[Tracer]

I'll take a stab at it and say try White Owl Parts Co. (252-522-2586) or Memphis Equipment Co. (901-774-0600) Both have been in the Military Truck business a long time, and have experienced people to help.

 

[Elk1111]

I finally figured out how to get some pictures on this thing.

 

[DavidWymore]

Cool!

How about some engine data plates, turbo...in cab dash, gauges, data plates?

 

[DavidWymore]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_6OEBrY6vNe4HK4CCpO21w

Check out IP/HH vids by our own Jeepsinker.

Long read but you can check out my A1 in my sig.