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Was looking for a shop in or near Milwaukee to work on M1008; then did it all myself!

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When it is all said and done you are going to be stoked. Working through the rough spots will get you to the prize! Your doing great, thanks for helping me understand what you were saying. Gear Vendor Overdrive is a high quality product that will give you a dependable quality product, well worth the money you spend. I was born and raised in San Diego and have driven by their establishment on countless occasions. I have considered using one on my truck, but a cross country trip would definitely make it a must priority.
I appreciate that man. I really feel like I came off like a jerk earlier and I apologize if I did.. it’s just the frustration of this whole thing getting to me and the fact that how much I’ve spent on this whole endeavor is starting to sink in…I digress!
Yes I agree the kit overall is amazing and the difference it’s gonna make for my driving experience is invaluable. However I just wish they’d include a couple more of the small stuff for how much they charge, but in the end it’s no big deal.
I thought about putting it behind the glove box, but I’m just worried that it might get a little toasty there when running the heater. They say to keep it away from heat sources in the manual.
I actually punched out one of the plugs in the floor pan under the seat and am planning to run my wiring through there. So I’m thinking I may possibly mount the computer behind the seat. I will post pics tomorrow morning.
 

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I appreciate that man. I really feel like I came off like a jerk earlier and I apologize if I did.. it’s just the frustration of this whole thing getting to me and the fact that how much I’ve spent on this whole endeavor is starting to sink in…I digress!
Yes I agree the kit overall is amazing and the difference it’s gonna make for my driving experience is invaluable. However I just wish they’d include a couple more of the small stuff for how much they charge, but in the end it’s no big deal.
I thought about putting it behind the glove box, but I’m just worried that it might get a little toasty there when running the heater. They say to keep it away from heat sources in the manual.
I actually punched out one of the plugs in the floor pan under the seat and am planning to run my wiring through there. So I’m thinking I may possibly mount the computer behind the seat. I will post pics tomorrow morning.
That sounds like it would be a good spot with plenty of room to work. Remember it is not just an investment, it is a hobby and a great experience, priceless.
 

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For the wiring that has to come from under the truck into the cab I decided to punch out one of the drain caps in the floor pan under the seat and run the wires through the hole. I used a rubber grommet in the hole and then covered the edges with silicone to seal it in place. I then ran the 3 wires through a piece of plastic wire conduit and then siliconed that into the middle of the grommet as well. When I get the wires pulled up into the cab and routed to where they will go, I plan to then fill the piece of conduit with silicone so that it will be completely sealed in the end.

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I’m pretty much done with the wiring under the truck, and I’m really happy that I decided to do it this way. Since the hole is right where the GVOD is, the wiring can go right into the cab without any complicated routing or trying to go to the engine bay and through the firewall etc.

I had to undo the Speedo cable from the very last clamp holding it in order to re-route it. I re-routed it over the top of the TC shifter linkage and this allowed me plenty of room to connect it to the GVOD sensor at the top of the unit. I added some rubberized clamps to hold it in place. The stud on the right is a 1/4-20 bolt I added through the floor pan originally to plug a hole that was there. It came in handy! Although the sensor looks to be very close to the floor pan, the clamps are holding it from making contact.

I also added some plastic conduit on the wires coming from the sensor for added protection. I will probably add some to all the wires leading up to where they enter the cab through the hole.

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I’m pretty much done with the wiring under the truck, and I’m really happy that I decided to do it this way. Since the hole is right where the GVOD is the wiring can just go right into the cab without any complicated routing or trying to go to the engine bay and through the firewall etc.

I had to undo the Speedo cable from the very last clamp holding it to re-route it to be able to connect to the sensor on the GVOD. I removed it from the clamp and also re-routed it over the top of the TC shifter linkage and this allowed me plenty of room to re-route the cable and connect it to the GVOD sensor at the top of the unit. I added some rubberized clamps to hold it in place. The stud on the right is a 1/4-20 bolt I added through the floor pan originally to plug a hole that was there. It came in handy! Although the sensor looks to be very close to the floor pan, the clamps are holding it from making contact.

I also added some plastic conduit on the wires coming from the sensor for added protection. I will probably add some to all the wires leading up to where they enter the cab through the hole.

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Wow a hole right where the speedo sensor hooks up!! That is a good omen, I think your project is meant to be!! Anxious to see the controller set up. you'll have plenty of room to coil up your excess cabling. I like how you roll, great job, I am impressed.
 

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I’m pretty much done with the wiring under the truck, and I’m really happy that I decided to do it this way. Since the hole is right where the GVOD is, the wiring can go right into the cab without any complicated routing or trying to go to the engine bay and through the firewall etc.

I had to undo the Speedo cable from the very last clamp holding it in order to re-route it. I re-routed it over the top of the TC shifter linkage and this allowed me plenty of room to connect it to the GVOD sensor at the top of the unit. I added some rubberized clamps to hold it in place. The stud on the right is a 1/4-20 bolt I added through the floor pan originally to plug a hole that was there. It came in handy! Although the sensor looks to be very close to the floor pan, the clamps are holding it from making contact.

I also added some plastic conduit on the wires coming from the sensor for added protection. I will probably add some to all the wires leading up to where they enter the cab through the hole.

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You can call me uneducated, but what are you installing what is it? An installation like this in my country would have to be signed by an engineer, around a minimum price of € 450, so that when you pass the annual inspection of the vehicle they will not give it to you for negative and if you do not approve it or uninstall it, they will cancel the vehicle,
 

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You can call me uneducated, but what are you installing what is it? An installation like this in my country would have to be signed by an engineer, around a minimum price of € 450, so that when you pass the annual inspection of the vehicle they will not give it to you for negative and if you do not approve it or uninstall it, they will cancel the vehicle,
This is the Gear Vendors overdrive system. It’s a bolt on overdrive to basically add an extra gear to the 3 speed transmission without changing the entire transmission. You can use it in any gear you wish to split the gear to help with towing etc, but the primary reason I got it was so I can drive higher speed without the RPMs being so high

here is the gear ratio chart from their website:
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I believe you have a M1009 blazer so your gear ratio is already a lot better for higher speeds, but on the M1008 the gear ratio is 4.56. When the overdrive is engaged the gear ratio becomes 3.56. I will be able to drive 65mph without the engine screaming!
 
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This is the Gear Vendors overdrive system. It’s a bolt on overdrive to basically add an extra gear to the 3 speed transmission without changing the entire transmission. You can use it in any gear you wish to split the gear to help with towing etc, but the primary reason I got it was so I can drive higher speed without the RPMs being so high

here is the gear ratio chart from their website:
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I believe you have a M1009 blazer so your gear ratio is already a lot better for higher speeds, but on the M1008 the gear ratio is 4.56. When the overdrive is engaged the gear ratio becomes 3.56. I will be able to drive 65mph without the engine screaming!


Thank you very much for the explanation, I already understood, the m1008 is looking great and you thought you would take it to the workshop ..... jjjjjjj ........ I actually have a m1009 from 1986, I don't know how much it runs and the engine screaming or not, since I'm working on it and with the incredible help that cucvrus is giving me, I'm sure I can start it, since it is currently stopped and does not start.
 

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I don't know how much it runs and the engine screaming or not,
You won't have a screaming engine on an M1009 that has the stock axles under it. The 3:08 gears are made for highway travel and you will not encounter the same engine RPM's that the CUCV truck/cab chassis variants have. The 4:56 gears is a real overkill. They are tough but I like 3:73 gears much better. I drove the stock gears 4:56 & 3:08 several hundred thousand miles. The 3:08 gears in the M1009 are user friendly. I don't hear crickets and katydids after getting out of the vehicle after highway speed. Take Care.
 
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I got the drive shaft back today and got it put on! I was so worried that my measurements weren’t going to be correct, but it seems to be spot on. I haven’t driven it yet, as I’m still hooking up all the wiring.

For reference, the GVOD manual tells you to insert the new yoke into the OD unit all the way (as far it can go), then measure from center U-joint on the axle to the center of the U-joint on the yoke. Then take that number and subtract 5/8” from it, and that’s your final measurement for your driveshaft. I measured 41-5/8” so my final measurement for the new driveshaft was 41”. (From center to center on the U-joints)

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I got the drive shaft back today and got it put on! I was so worried that my measurements weren’t going to be correct, but it seems to be spot on. I haven’t driven it yet, as I’m still hooking up all the wiring.

For reference, the GVOD manual tells you to insert the new yoke into the OD unit all the way (as far it can go), then measure from center U-joint on the axle to the center of the U-joint on the yoke. Then take that number and subtract 5/8” from it, and that’s your final measurement for your driveshaft. I measured 41-5/8” so my final measurement for the new driveshaft was 41”. (From center to center on the U-joints)

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Looks great, perfect fit, you did great! Happy Days! Your measurements are only as good as the person holding the other end of the tape.
 
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Looks great, perfect fit, you did great! Happy Days! Your measurements are only as good as the person holding the other end of the tape.
In this case it was all me 😂

What I did was measure from the large nut on the axle (since I could get the magnetic end of the tape measure to stick to it) to the center of the U-joint on the yoke and got 42-5/8”. I then measured from the large nut on the axle to the center u joint on the axle and it was roughly 1 inch. So I just subtracted that inch and ended up at 41-5/8”.
 

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Looks great, perfect fit, you did great! Happy Days! Your measurements are only as good as the person holding the other end of the tape.
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Never will forget my first new helper when I worked in the truck shop. We were installing a PTO shaft. Octagonal inch and a half (from memory) thick metal. 'Splained how to measure. I don't think he had ever read a ruler. I was standing beside the truck - pad and paper in hand. He calls out 48 and three big marks and two small marks.

I almost had a stroke!

Today, 40 years later I can guarantee you that he still reads a ruler to the 16th of an inch with deadly accuracy. Every time!

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retro_life you definitely did good! Even took compression into the back of the transmission into consideration...
NICE looking work!!
 

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In this case it was all me 😂

What I did was measure from the large nut on the axle (since I could get the magnetic end of the tape measure to stick to it) to the center of the U-joint on the yoke and got 42-5/8”. I then measured from the large nut on the axle to the center u joint on the axle and it was roughly 1 inch. So I just subtracted that inch and ended up at 41-5/8”.
I Think I could turn you into a good carpenter. You have good auto mechanical skills, I am sure you would have good mechanical carpentry skills.
 

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Never will forget my first new helper when I worked in the truck shop. We were installing a PTO shaft. Octagonal inch and a half (from memory) thick metal. 'Splained how to measure. I don't think he had ever read a ruler. I was standing beside the truck - pad and paper in hand. He calls out 48 and three big marks and two small marks.

I almost had a stroke!

Today, 40 years later I can guarantee you that he still reads a ruler to the 16th of an inch with deadly accuracy. Every time!

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retro_life you definitely did good! Even took compression into the back of the transmission into consideration...
NICE looking work!!
Believe me when I first started out I can remember counting the the dashes on a tape measure and taking a few minutes to figure out the correct measurement. Nothing like on the job experience.
 

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Believe me when I first started out I can remember counting the the dashes on a tape measure and taking a few minutes to figure out the correct measurement.
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It is amazing what we will make ourselves learn how to do something when it costs us - more money than we want to spend.
Good for you! Best part is that you got it AND it worked.

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It is amazing what we will make ourselves learn how to do something when it costs us - more money than we want to spend.
Good for you! Best part is that you got it AND it worked.

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It is amazing once you have confidence in yourself and your abilities, how you can learn to do just about anything you set your mind and will on to accomplish.
 

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I Think I could turn you into a good carpenter. You have good auto mechanical skills, I am sure you would have good mechanical carpentry skills.
Thanks man! I’ve always wanted to get into wood working. I’ve been playing guitar for over 20 years and I’d love to make a guitar from scratch. I’m also interested in making knives as that’s another hobby of mine.

Most of my mechanic background is with motorcycles. I worked as a Harley mechanic at an Indy shop for a few years. Mostly doing services and bolt ons like exhaust systems etc. The biggest thing working on harleys taught me is how to be careful and not scratch anything! So I kinda pay attention to stupid details no one else would notice.

In the past few years I’ve also gotten into 3D printing. I spent a few months teaching myself how to use CAD software and that’s become another passion of mine. When I get home I plan on designing a few things for the cucv. One of the first things would probably be a nice panel for the GVOD controls. I also thought about making a piece with the proper cut outs for the service light and black out switches that could be used to mod a civi bezel to a cucv style. That way we can convert new parts to work on our trucks. Getting the sticker made would be easy. If you have any other ideas lemme know!
 
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