Center link, tie rod ends, drag link, pitman interchange between 998 and 1123

[Superhondaz50]

Hi all, was wondering the comparability of the parts in the title, M998 vs M1123. My 1123 is missing everything. The A2 stuff seems really expensive but I see earlier M998 stuff for dirt cheap. Can I get the 998 stuff and just slap it on? Thanks

 

[Coug]

no. You don't want to go backwards. The parts were updated for a reason.

 

[juanprado]

What makes this frustrating in my mind as I had been in the parts business 20 years is that Moog makes the stuff but it is proprietary to AMG.

I can't recall this type of arrangement from Moog anytime in the past to for chassis/suspension parts.

 

[Mogman]

What makes this frustrating in my mind as I had been in the parts business 20 years is that Moog makes the stuff but it is proprietary to AMG.

I can't recall this type of arrangement from Moog anytime in the past to for chassis/suspension parts.

Most likely AGM had to agree to purchase X number of components to get them custom made to AMGs specs, really cannot blame them for trying to protect their interests, I would.
Moog likely believed there would not be enough aftermarket sales not to require a minimum commitment from AMG unlike anything mass produced and sold to the public.

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

Read the TM’s and apply the UOC…there is a reason for proper application of parts based on model and serial numbers…they didn’t do it for no reason at all.

 

[gringeltaube]

Read the TM’s and apply the UOC…

I did: there is no UOC for the tie rod ends, at least.
According to TM9-2320-280-24P, Fig. 170, both parts (RH =2530-01-189-2195; LH = 2530-01-197-2160) are the same for all variants.

 

[Mogman]

I did: there is no UOC for the tie rod ends, at least.
According to TM9-2320-280-24P, Fig. 170, both parts (RH =2530-01-189-2195; LH = 2530-01-197-2160) are the same for all variants.

Yes, if there is no UOC applied then it is the same for all variants covered by that TM. tie rod ends are one example.

 

[Superhondaz50]

I did: there is no UOC for the tie rod ends, at least.
According to TM9-2320-280-24P, Fig. 170, both parts (RH =2530-01-189-2195; LH = 2530-01-197-2160) are the same for all variants.

This is good to know. I found the center link tied up in the engine bay with some leftover wires from the trans harness. So I need tie rod ends and tie rod shafts. Does anyone have the tie rod shafts part number off hand?

 

[Coug]

This is good to know. I found the center link tied up in the engine bay with some leftover wires from the trans harness. So I need tie rod ends and tie rod shafts. Does anyone have the tie rod shafts part number off hand?

Usually if you need both the ends and the shafts, it's easier to buy them as an assembly.

Part numbers can be found on here for assemblies and individual parts (but not all are available right now)

Hummer Parts Guy (HPG) | TIE RODS & RADIUS RODS

www.hummerpartsguy.com

 

[Superhondaz50]

Ok, found all the parts on ebay for $230. That's should get my steering back together. Need to get the brakes going, tires and drop in a new engine.

 

[Ajax MD]

no. You don't want to go backwards. The parts were updated for a reason.

If you have an old M998, can you go forwards? Will the updated parts bolt up?

 

[Mogman]

If you have an old M998, can you go forwards? Will the updated parts bolt up?

You can update the steering to A2 components, IIRC you will need the idler arm, steering gear arm, tie rod center sections (tie rod ends are the same) and the drag link.

 

[Coug]

The center drag link is thinner than the A2 version, so if you use the A2 idler and pitman arm you have to add a spacer (just a thick washer really) to the castle nuts to make up the extra length of the threads.

Not sure the differences in the tie rods