M35A2 Generator

[cavtrooper78]

I also found this data plate on the engine. I’ve never seen something like this on MVs. Anyone have any experience with this company? I’m gearing up for winter projects and trying to find out the most info as I can. Also trying to find one of those one wire alternators to fabricate onto this engine. So many on Amazon it’s going to take me some research and time that’s for sure.

 

[Mullaney]

I also found this data plate on the engine. I’ve never seen something like this on MVs. Anyone have any experience with this company? I’m gearing up for winter projects and trying to find out the most info as I can. Also trying to find one of those one wire alternators to fabricate onto this engine. So many on Amazon it’s going to take me some research and time that’s for sure.

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Definitely looks like a factory plate on that multi-fuel to me.

 

[marchplumber]

Multi-fuel is A2.......in all my limited experience.....White and Hercules were different manufactures for multi-fuel engines ......A3 was a CAT 3116

 

[marchplumber]

The LDT 465 engine used in the "deuce and a half" (M35 truck) was primarily manufactured by three companies: Continental Motors Company, Hercules, and White Motor Company, meaning there were three manufacturers for this engine in the military vehicle. [1, 2, 3]
Key points about the LDT 465 manufacturers: [1, 2, 4]

• Continental Motors Company: This was the primary manufacturer of the LDT 465 engine.
• Hercules: Another significant manufacturer of the LDT 465 engine.
• White Motor Company: Also produced the LDT 465 engine, though to a lesser extent than the other two. [1, 2, 4]

Generative AI is experimental.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M35_series_2%C2%BD-ton_6%C3%976_cargo_truck
[2] https://www.sae.org/publications/technical-papers/content/640371/
[3] https://hobbymasterarchive.org/HG5701/
[4] https://threemovers.com/what-is-the-oldest-truck-company-in-the-us/

 

[cavtrooper78]

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Definitely looks like a factory plate on that multi-fuel to me.

Yeah I’m not questioning the engine data plate. It’s the one inside the cab on the dash. That’s the one that doesn’t make sense.

 

[Guyfang]

Data Plates are never riveted on. Only screwed on.

This is strange. The FSN: 2320-00-077-1636 listed on your data plate comes up as:

Truck, Tank Water, M50A3, 2320-077-1636, WO/W (Without Winch)

Truck Van Shop, M109A3, (as shown on your data plate) is the FSN: 2320-00-937-4036, (WOW) or 2320-00-077-1637, (W/W)

 

[cavtrooper78]

Do you think something like this would work? It has a lot of good reviews and puts out plenty of amperage.

145 Amp Diesel Semi Truck Alternator for 22SI Delco

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[cavtrooper78]

Data Plates are never riveted on. Only screwed on.

This is strange. The FSN: 2320-00-077-1636 listed on your data plate comes up as:

Truck, Tank Water, M50A3, 2320-077-1636, WO/W (Without Winch)

Truck Van Shop, M109A3, (as shown on your data plate) is the FSN: 2320-00-937-4036, (WOW) or 2320-00-077-1637, (W/W)

hmm the ones we had on active duty as soon as 2012 had them riveted on. I had to drill out 4 rivets on one of the plates inside the cab because I was going to put the plug there.

It IS very strange. It’s hard to figure out what I have. Almost feels like a Frankenstein’s monster truck. It’s also why I’ve been asking about TMs. Sometimes when I go to look something up for what it says it is on the plate it doesn’t match up with the tm.

 

[Guyfang]

I should have said older equipment, only had screws.

Where did you get this truck? Because the data plate and the tech info in the -10 TM do NOT agree.

I am not a truck guy. So I can not comment on the alternator you showed in post #27.

And Marchplumber's post is correct. A3 Trucks have a CAT engine. So this is an A2 truck if the engine data plate reads Multi Fuel.

Sumpton fishy going on here.

 

[Guyfang]

Got it figured out.

We have it wrong. The cover to the TM 9-2320-361-10 has a typo. They mixed the M109 and the M50 FSN's up. so the data plate is good.

The M109A3 is a multifuel truck, and the FSN is correct.

From Wiki. See the yellow highlighted text.

M35A3
[edit]
From 1994 until 1999, the M35A3 variant was introduced as part of Extended Service Program. Usually, A3 vehicles have a Caterpillar 3116 Diesel engine and had their manual transmissions replaced with Allison 1545 4-speed automatic transmissions, as well as receiving numerous other improvements with a redesigned frontal appearance. No new A3 standard-transmission vehicles were produced, all vehicles being upgraded from previous configurations during the rebuild process. The exception is some M109A3 shop vans. A small number of M109A3s were upgraded to A4 specifications using the M35A3 upgrade parts and procedures. As-built original Pre A2s are gasoline-powered, A1s use the LDS 427-2 multifuel engine, A2s use the LD/LDT 465-1c multifuel engine, and A3s use the Caterpillar diesel. It is common, however, to find rebuilds of former gas-powered REO and Studebaker models having A1 and A2 multifuel configurations. The original contract for the M35 - Service Life Extension Program was competitive. The last two companies to send vehicles to Aberdeen Proving Ground were AM General, South Bend, IN and Cummins Military Systems, Augusta, GA (AMG was awarded third quarter of 1993).

 

[cavtrooper78]

Got it figured out.

We have it wrong. The cover to the TM 9-2320-361-10 has a typo. They mixed the M109 and the M50 FSN's up. so the data plate is good.

The M109A3 is a multifuel truck, and the FSN is correct.

From Wiki. See the yellow highlighted text.

M35A3
[edit]
From 1994 until 1999, the M35A3 variant was introduced as part of Extended Service Program. Usually, A3 vehicles have a Caterpillar 3116 Diesel engine and had their manual transmissions replaced with Allison 1545 4-speed automatic transmissions, as well as receiving numerous other improvements with a redesigned frontal appearance. No new A3 standard-transmission vehicles were produced, all vehicles being upgraded from previous configurations during the rebuild process. The exception is some M109A3 shop vans. A small number of M109A3s were upgraded to A4 specifications using the M35A3 upgrade parts and procedures. As-built original Pre A2s are gasoline-powered, A1s use the LDS 427-2 multifuel engine, A2s use the LD/LDT 465-1c multifuel engine, and A3s use the Caterpillar diesel. It is common, however, to find rebuilds of former gas-powered REO and Studebaker models having A1 and A2 multifuel configurations. The original contract for the M35 - Service Life Extension Program was competitive. The last two companies to send vehicles to Aberdeen Proving Ground were AM General, South Bend, IN and Cummins Military Systems, Augusta, GA (AMG was awarded third quarter of 1993).

Wow that is AWESOME researching skills brother. Nice dig!

 

[marchplumber]

Kudos to Mr. Guyfang.....

For a "non-truck" guy, he does purdy darn good....=)

 

[Guyfang]

I got lucky.

 

[marchplumber]

.....uh huh......rriiiiiiiight

 

[cavtrooper78]

I got lucky.

I doubt that

 

[cavtrooper78]

Where did you get this truck? Because the data plate and the tech info in the -10 TM do NOT agree.

a guy in Perry, OK that bought it n from a guy in Kansas.