hobie237
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You guys crack me up, I've never come across a group so obsessed with doomsday, except for maybe a few religious cults. It seems like every couple weeks a new thread pops up predicting that the end is near, and I guess by taking that approach, it will ensure that at least one of the prediction threads will be correct.
Anyway, here are my observations and commentary:
1. I don't know what any MV owners could possibly do that would be so irresponsible as to get the supply of surplus stuff get cut off, save for maybe buying up the stuff in bulk and then shipping it to countries hostile to the US. What else could owners do? Go offroad illegally? People do that in non military trucks all the time. It's not like MVs are high on the list for commissions of felonies or high-speed chases, either.
2. Making this an issue about "libs" is asinine. Neocons have shown at least as much hatred for personal freedom as libs ever have.
3. The posts about the government coming to collect the trucks are even more asinine. There are just too many out there, and plenty of them have changed ownership numerous times since being sold surplus. I don't think anybody wants to take the time to track them all down.
Most importantly:
4. The military vehicle community will NEVER generate enough support, in and of itself, to prevent a change like this from happening, if the government was determined to make such a change. Given past experiences and logical deduction, it's a safe assumption that the MV community will resist the measure, and any decisions made will bear that in mind.
As such, the MV community needs the support of the general citizenry of the country. Why should they help? Simple- the government does not own these trucks. The government doesn't own the radios, the gear, anything. That's right, THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T OWN SQUAT. YOU do. I do. The tax paying citizenry as a whole does. Period. It's public property, bought and paid for by the taxpayers.
I can understand not wanting to release Abrams tanks, guided missiles, battleships and F-16s to the public. I get that. I don't think the public as a whole wants them floating around, either. But for the love of all things holy, there's no reason for trucks that are essentially the same as civilian versions, or as harmless as a deuce and a half (seriously, given the trucks that are commercially available, a deuce or five-ton isn't all THAT impressive that I'd sweat about them floating around) to be destroyed. Taxpayer dollars paid for them, plain and simple, and the taxpayers should at least have a chance to recover the property that they paid for and put it to use.
Anyway, here are my observations and commentary:
1. I don't know what any MV owners could possibly do that would be so irresponsible as to get the supply of surplus stuff get cut off, save for maybe buying up the stuff in bulk and then shipping it to countries hostile to the US. What else could owners do? Go offroad illegally? People do that in non military trucks all the time. It's not like MVs are high on the list for commissions of felonies or high-speed chases, either.
2. Making this an issue about "libs" is asinine. Neocons have shown at least as much hatred for personal freedom as libs ever have.
3. The posts about the government coming to collect the trucks are even more asinine. There are just too many out there, and plenty of them have changed ownership numerous times since being sold surplus. I don't think anybody wants to take the time to track them all down.
Most importantly:
4. The military vehicle community will NEVER generate enough support, in and of itself, to prevent a change like this from happening, if the government was determined to make such a change. Given past experiences and logical deduction, it's a safe assumption that the MV community will resist the measure, and any decisions made will bear that in mind.
As such, the MV community needs the support of the general citizenry of the country. Why should they help? Simple- the government does not own these trucks. The government doesn't own the radios, the gear, anything. That's right, THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T OWN SQUAT. YOU do. I do. The tax paying citizenry as a whole does. Period. It's public property, bought and paid for by the taxpayers.
I can understand not wanting to release Abrams tanks, guided missiles, battleships and F-16s to the public. I get that. I don't think the public as a whole wants them floating around, either. But for the love of all things holy, there's no reason for trucks that are essentially the same as civilian versions, or as harmless as a deuce and a half (seriously, given the trucks that are commercially available, a deuce or five-ton isn't all THAT impressive that I'd sweat about them floating around) to be destroyed. Taxpayer dollars paid for them, plain and simple, and the taxpayers should at least have a chance to recover the property that they paid for and put it to use.
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