TM surfing: Is there a part number system other than NSN's?

[rchalmers3]

The reason I ask is that I received a parts request for some brake parts with the following numbers/sequences:

1. 419M2, 913096, FE3527

6. 302430, W4419 Y WC4419

I believe these to be the brake master cylinder and air pack, according to his included descriptions.

If there is another part number system, will someone kindly and gently lead me to any resource lending a greater understanding and enlightenment.

Thanks!

Rick

 

[Jones]

It would help to know what you're working on.
Once you determine that; the TM 9-2320-XXX-24P is the parts break-down for any given vehicle. XXX being the particular manual set; 260 for 5 tons, 361 for deuces, etc.

 

[papercu]

For the first set:
419M2, 913096, FE3527 is for the M35 Brake, Master Cylinder, NSN 2530-00-753-9267
For the second set: 302430 is a common number and comes back as being for a lot of items.
I need more information for this number "W4419 Y WC4419 , is that one complete number, two numbers? There are no hits for. W4419 Y WC4419 Wayne

 

[rchalmers3]

.... the TM 9-2320-XXX-24P is the parts break-down for any given vehicle. XXX being the particular manual set; 260 for 5 tons, 361 for deuces, etc.

It's an M35A2. I will look for 9-2320-361-24P in the resource section, thanks.

For the first set:
419M2, 913096, FE3527 is for the M35 Brake, Master Cylinder, NSN 2530-00-753-9267
For the second set: 302430 is a common number and comes back as being for a lot of items.
I need more information for this number "W4419 Y WC4419 , is that one complete number, two numbers? There are no hits for. W4419 Y WC4419 Wayne

Wayne, the "Y" between the above referenced numbers can be read as "and" in this case, making it 2 numbers. Thank you.

Question: Are you able to do a document search on the .pdf files or do you have an electronic catalog?

Rick

 

[rchalmers3]

Bummer, there is no link for TM9-2320-361-24P in the FAQ "WIKI".....

Me thinks it's a worthy addition???

Off to the library!

Rick

 

[SCSG-G4]

It's in the resources section, under TM's, about page 9-11 range

 

[rchalmers3]

It's in the resources section, under TM's, about page 9-11 range

Found it, thanks!

I am new to MV's, and don't have the historical or operational experience to understand the format and presentation of the information that is available. I am willing to learn, but could benefit from someone experienced and willing to share some insight.

Why there are part numbers in addition to NSN numbers? Which is better or do I need both for ordering parts?

If I find conflicting part numbers, how do I confirm part number super-cessions?

Are VIN numbers, cage codes or any other information important when obtaining parts?

Rick

 

[papercu]

Why there are part numbers in addition to NSN numbers? Which is better or do I need both for ordering parts?
Part number are from the Manufacturer, NSN (National Stock Number) are assigned from the government.
Both numbers couldn't hurt.
"conflicting part numbers," Government buys the same part from many different sources.
"Are VIN numbers, cage codes or any other information important when obtaining parts?"
I've never used them but again there is never to much information. Wayne

 

[rchalmers3]

1.) Part numbers are from the Manufacturer, NSN (National Stock Number) are assigned from the government.
Both numbers couldn't hurt.
2) Government buys the same part from many different sources.r

Wayne, thank you for your reply. I have a few questions regarding these two statements.

Why does the army publish the TM with a single part number if say, Studebaker and AM General have their own respective part numbers for the exact same NSN?

What are you using to go from part number to description? Are you using an electronic catalog or another system for parts identification?

If my question is none of my beeswax, you can tell me to buzz off.

Rick

 

[papercu]

single part number

Probably that was just the number that was in use when the manual was written.
Everything I use to find information is on google. There is a subscription service for a fee but I don't know the name of it. Wayne

 

[rchalmers3]

Everything I use to find information is on google.

Wayne, I found the DLIS website and search routine on the Internet. With these tools: the army publications and the DLIS search program, I am gaining confidence in my ability to look up a part from a picture, a description, the NSN, or the manufacturer part number.

Thanks to SS and to you for your assistance.

Rick

 

[emmado22]

CAGE codes are 5 digit codes used to identify a manufacturer.Every manufacturer's is different, no 2 are the same. Takes much less space to write "A123B" than "Joe Smith Company" and their full contact info. Googling a CAGE code brings up 90% of them...

NSN's are assigned as previosuly stated.

As for several part #'s for the same NSN, yes.. Your company makes a widget, mine also makes the exact same widget, and we both use different part #'s.. Uncle Sam assigns a NSN to make it easy to order the widget, and it doesnt matter who made it (nor their part #), as it's the same widget.

As to why they only list one part # out of several, I have no clue., but they do.

Google is pretty good for looking up NSN's, CAGE codes, and part #'s... If your a civilian, thats the best info your going to be able to get.

 

[rchalmers3]

emmado and all,

Yesterday I learned slot about the NSN system and how to access the system through the DLIS.

Today I have a different question. I imagine y'all are experienced with the "Haystack" system GL has subscribed to, and makes publically available for gaining deeper info on specific NSN items. Do any of you have a "public" (and free) NSN research tool similar to Haystack for us hobbiests?

Thank you all again. I have enjoyed the learning process and knowledge gained.

Rick