Form 97 with purchase?

[papakb]

I just bought a nice 101A3 at Sierra AD and was not given a Form 97 when it was picked up. Now GLwants to charge me $60 for the Form 97.

Since that particular From 97 only has relevance to me, the original purchaser and was turned over to GL with the trailer, why should I have to pay an additional $60 for it???

Shouldn't Form 97s be included when you purchase a vehicle?

Kurt

 

[Snarky]

I think they may have to pay a tax to the state of Florida or some such.

 

[m16ty]

Shouldn't Form 97s be included when you purchase a vehicle?

It should but that's not how GL does it. You'll have to wait up to 60 days to receive the sf97 after you apply for it also.

 

[Warthog]

Have you ever gone into a dealership to buy a car? They charge you $125 plus just to handle the paperwork. GL operates on the same principle.

Any vehicle that can have a SF-97 will cost you $60 and 30+ days.

It is in the fine print and you agreed to it when you bid. Sorry.

 

[Warren Lovell]

The SF97 is generated for you. That's why the form asks you for year, make, model, etc.
And yes, it is another way for GL to get money from you. It probably takes a few minutes to type out.

 

[Warthog]

The SF97 is generated for you. That's why the form asks you for year, make, model, etc.
And yes, it is another way for GL to get money from you. It probably takes a few minutes to type out.

Actually the SF-97 is generated with GLs name and then they generate an assignment form.. Your are giving GL the info so they can get a SF-97 for themselfs......

This is assuming that you live in a state that will accept an SF-97, if not then you will get a Florida Title.

 

[tie6044]

This is assuming that you live in a state that will accept an SF-97, if not then you will get a Florida Title.

So that's how that works? I always wondered why some people get a title and some get the SF-97. Is there any way to request a Florida title instead of the SF-97 even if your state does accept the 97?

 

[Warthog]

So that's how that works? I always wondered why some people get a title and some get the SF-97. Is there any way to request a Florida title instead of the SF-97 even if your state does accept the 97?

Simply put....NO

They will only supply title for states that have "refused" to accept the SF-97s. I don't know which ones.

My understanding is that GL is a Used Car Dealer in Florida and can "re-assign" the SF-97s

 

[MWMULES]

Kurt the only way you will get a SF97, no bidders fee and paying tax on your bid is to buy from GSA. When the DRMO/DLA ran the show it was free sf97, no tax, no fees those days like the 10 cent Coke are long gone!

 

[area52]

If you buy a car from a dealer, you DO NOT HAVE TO PAY TO GET A TITLE!! I have argued this point several times on here. A title should come with a vehicle/trailer by LAW!!! You are paying the dealer to reassign it in your name, which you can just as easily do your self and for less $$.

The same applies to GL. The only reason that people in FL get a title is because they were pressured to issue titles there. In most states, any person or company that sells more than 5 vehicles is a "dealer" and fall under dealer laws. No one has taken GL to court over it so they get away with charging $60 for a SF97.

When I bought my first deuce when GL was young (2001) they actually gave me an AZ title with it for FREE!!

 

[m16ty]

A title should come with a vehicle/trailer by LAW!!!

That's the way I understand it. Most states (if not all) have laws that if you sell a motor vehicle you MUST provide a title within a short period of time (I think in TN it's something like 10 days).

This and the dealer thing are just a few of the many laws GL breaks every day. Somehow they get away with it.

I will also say that it's fine line between trying to get GL to do right and pushing too hard. Some people may remember that for a period of time a few years ago GL quit issuing sf97s for all vehicles. They could go back to that policy if people push too hard or just decide to scrap them.

 

[65 m151a1]

GL is a contractor for the government

Government Liquidation is run by a contract with contracted employee's and so it makes them a private intitny and not government intitny and thats the way states look at it.

Before when it was DRMO they issued a SF Form 97 in the states that accepted it and the ones that didn't was issued a certificate of title.

Contractors will add charges when the government did it for nothing.

Later 65 m151a1

 

[ranchhopper]

Our state no longer accepts SF-97s from GL but they do accept them from the GSA something to do with being reassigned by GL and not directly from the government like the GSA now we get arizona titles in illinois.

 

[GPappy]

Hmmm, so to get the trailer I just purchased titled in Michigan I have to pay an additional 60 to get an SF97? The purchase receipt is not enough????

 

[sigo]

It's pretty bad when the contractor is worse than the bureaucracy that contracted them. I only recently discovered how painful the process was, but I suppose it's the price we pay for somewhat below retail prices on gov't equipment you're not going to get anywhere else. Government Liquidation could probably make the process less painful, but it's all about the $$, any way they can get it from you. Plus, they're just about the only game in town so we're left with no choice. Like it, or leave it. Unless we band together and form a company that can out-bid GL next time the contract comes up...

 

[lindyp38]

How bout ny....anyone go through the registration thing.........in ny......?

 

[ranchhopper]

As I understand in michigan a bill of sale will be sufficient to get a title for truck of trailer.