new deisel feul

[barnetc1]

Hey guys. Purchased my first deuce 4 or 5 months ago. Love it!!!!!!!!!! I here of all the types of fuel everybody runs, and my question is , can you run this new deisel in these trucks. Do you need to mix 50/50 or what. I still have the tank full that came with truck, it looks like offroad. I here of the fines for running offroad, and i dont want a big georgia fine.

 

[barnetc1]

 

[hemichallenger]

If you run the deuce on low or ultra low sulfer fuel it will score the injection pump and damage it. If you are worried about getting your tank dipped you can add an additive to lubercate the pump or if you mix it with a couple gallons of new oil it will not change the the apperance of the fuel. The low sulfer fuel is not intended for directed injected engines even though is says it is ok on the pump.

 

[tiger422]

Just add oil you will be fine

 

[clinto]

Welcome to the site barnetc1!

Here is a good read: http://www.steelsoldiers.com/conversations/17081-ulsd-any-easy-answer-out-there.html


Here is another good read: http://www.steelsoldiers.com/ga-rally/53347-official-2010-ss-ga-rally-info-thread.html

We hope to see you in October!

 

[barnetc1]

Thanks for all of the help. I will try the deisel kleen, i have seen it at walmart. If i want to use the motor oil, do you put one quart per 50 gallon or more than one.

 

[wreckerman893]

Welcome to the Green Iron Addiction Support Group

Make plans now for the GA Rally......it's the most fun you can have without removing your pants.

When we speak of adding motor oil we are speaking in the context of used motor oil...unless you have access to very cheap new motor oil.

You can run a fairly high concentration of UMO and some people claim to run 100%....I would not reccomend that.

My favorite mix is used motor oil, waste veggie oil, diesel fuel and a little regular unleaded gas to thin it out.

The deuce is very forgiving about fuel as long as you keep the water out.....always carry extra fuel filters just in case.

Using off road fuel is a judgement call...you save a few bucks per tank but if you ever get dipped the fine will cancel out any savings you see. Adding UMO to mask the color will not work nowdays since they use a floresent dye that can be detected with a black light.

 

[66Reo6X6]

My favorite mix is used motor oil, waste veggie oil, diesel fuel and a little regular unleaded gas to thin it out. wreckerman893

Just wondering what percentages of each you are using. I have several hundred gallons of WVO and a few of WMO.
Also does one need to be concerned bout storing WMO for extended periods of time.
Thanks

 

[dittle]

Heck, I just add a quart of ATF to my tank when I'm at the pump.

 

[kennys@wi.rr.com]

I run a lot of UMO and UATF in my 7.3. I get better mileage and noticable power increase from those two. The more I add the more I notice. But you need to add something to save yourself a big headache from the ultra low. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Floridianson]

Add your diesel Klean as per the label to what you got and when ever you fill up. For what is in there run it and don't worry about the color as it was in the tank when you got it. You did not break the law and add offroad to a on road truck. Have fun don't worry and welcome.

PS I don't run anything but new clean diesel in my trucks. When 2012 brakes loose then run all the crap.

 

[m16ty]

Also does one need to be concerned bout storing WMO for extended periods of time.
Thanks

Not that I'm aware of. They claim the stuff is a few millon years old already anyway . I've seen WMO that's been stored for many years and it looks just like "fresh" WMO.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Somebody posted a link to a study done on lubricity a while back. The winner by a huge margin was biodiesel. If you can source biodiesel and mix that with the ULSD, you will be golden. I don't think any of the additives can be bought at the per gallon price of bio.

 

[dittle]

Somebody posted a link to a study done on lubricity a while back. The winner by a huge margin was biodiesel. If you can source biodiesel and mix that with the ULSD, you will be golden. I don't think any of the additives can be bought at the per gallon price of bio.

Biodiesel doesn't work so well for us northern states guys. Gels pretty quickly. The Minneapolis Public Transit Authority found that out the hard way a couple of years ago.....there was a law passed stating all of the buses had to run on a pretty high mix of the bio and when it got below freezing none of the buses would run. That law was amended pretty quickly.

 

[nhdiesel]

In any of my normal size tanks (20 gal or so) I try to put a quart of motor oil in (new, used...doesn't matter) per tank. For a Deuce I'd put a couple quarts in. No measurement is necessary...they love motor oil and trans fluid, just dump some in and run it. It doesn't take a lot to give lubricity, but using more will save a little at the pump.

Ask any of your friends who do their own oil changes to save you the oil. Pour it through a paint filter or some cheesecloth and put it in your tank, and enjoy the cost savings.

Jim

 

[Recovry4x4]

Forgot about the cold weather. I can't see a gallon or two gelling an entire tank of ULSD but I'm in FL, what do I know!

 

[Westech]

If you run the deuce on low or ultra low sulfer fuel it will score the injection pump and damage it. If you are worried about getting your tank dipped you can add an additive to lubercate the pump or if you mix it with a couple gallons of new oil it will not change the the apperance of the fuel. The low sulfer fuel is not intended for directed injected engines even though is says it is ok on the pump.

You people do know that the Injection pump is lubricated by engine oil right? Running ULSD will not harm a thing. The Darn Injection pump was designed to have used gasoline as a fuel. About the only thing that will harm the pump is contaminants such as dirt, sand, metal shavings/filings. The best thing to do is keep the fuel filters changed. Other then that, not much will take it out.
And one more note.. I thought all Diesel engines were direct injection that are manufactured today, really I don't know every thing about every diesel engine, but I can not think of one that is not direct injection or have some sort of fuel injector.

 

[Floridianson]

you people do know that the Injection pump is lubricated by engine oil right? Running ULSD will not harm a thing. The Darn Injection pump was designed to have used gasoline as a fuel. About the only thing that will harm the pump is contaminants such as dirt, sand, metal shavings/filings. The best thing to do is keep the fuel filters changed. Other then that, not much will take it out.

The head is lubed by engine oil. I don't think so. Also we lost 4 points cetain and oil will not give you that back.

Buy a jug of good additive as it treats 250 gal. How long will it take you to burn 250 gal. Don't be so cheap.

 

[nhdiesel]

You people do know that the Injection pump is lubricated by engine oil right? Running ULSD will not harm a thing. The Darn Injection pump was designed to have used gasoline as a fuel. About the only thing that will harm the pump is contaminants such as dirt, sand, metal shavings/filings. The best thing to do is keep the fuel filters changed. Other then that, not much will take it out.
And one more note.. I thought all Diesel engines were direct injection that are manufactured today, really I don't know every thing about every diesel engine, but I can not think of one that is not direct injection or have some sort of fuel injector.

There are parts of the pump that are only lubricated by the fuel. that is why the Multifuel manual (as well as dash plate) recommends against running 100% gas. You need a certain amount of lubricity in the fuel for not only the pump, but also the injectors that are mechanical.

Jim

 

[rlwm211]

Lubricity and the lack of it in today's diesel;

Sulfur, which is now pretty much absent in our available truck diesel is a lubricant for the injectors and pump. There are several studies available that explain how the fuel allowed today does not properly lubricate those components of the fuel system of the older diesels.

The factor that must be considered as to the fuel is "LUBRICITY". Current fuel is woefully lacking in this. After reading up on the issue, I came accross this article. The chart on the last page says it all about today's fuel and what you can add to help it work better in your 1950's technology diesel engine.

http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fuel_additive_test.pdf

As a result of reviewing that article, here is how I feed my deuce MULTIFUEL:

I add 1 ounce of 2 stroke engine oil per 3 gallons of pump diesel. I also add power service (white bottle) as a cetaine improver and also as an anti moisture and anti gelling additive.

I have run 3000 miles on this in a year and have had good results. This includes very cold weather starting as well as hot summer running.

Hope this helps

RL