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thanks that was a great eye opener. i haven't read anything on the batteries on the truck. it 24V but will any 2 batteries work to try to start it?
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Yes, two 12 volt batteries. That's what the truck has already. The higher the CCA the better as this will give you more cranking time if you need to prime the lines with fuel. Might be able to score a couple of the correct type if you hit the swap meet at the rally this weekend. A couple of 5 gallon fuel cans full of diesel to add to the fuel tank of the M35 would also be a good idea.thanks that was a great eye opener. i haven't read anything on the batteries on the truck. it 24V but will any 2 batteries work to try to start it?
So NOW its NOT the brakes, but the driver and if he's 'got his head in the game'?"A 13,000lbs truck with single circuit brakes is not the same as a 4000lbs car"
They are not different. You either stop or you hit something. Whats the big difference?
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The difference is being prepared for the "what if". There are ways to stop an un-braked vehicle without hitting something. Losing brakes in a 4000lbs car does not have the momentum of a 13,000lbs truck. You can stop or slow a car with the hand brake or the parking brake with your foot if you are prepared to hold the hand release while using your foot on the brake. In deuce that brake is not going to do anything at 40 mph with that kind of wight behind it.
If the OP (or anyone else) is not ready for that situation then its better for them to have it towed till they get a little seat time at home in a controled enviroment rather than out on the hiway.
A small 4,000lb car at 55-60 (not uncommon on even back roads) has MORE potential energy than a 10,000lb truck at 35.. so your maths are not adding up. You don't destroy things with size, but the whole F=MA thing. A blimp ain't doing much damage no matter how hard you run into stuff with it.
About the only thing I will concede is turn radius. Sharp right turns can bite you (trailer or not).
Unless you are going to do a bolt by bolt strip down and rebuild your truck is going to be the same ball of fiery death as it was on the GL lot. Just now you are out $500-1000 towing. Nothing in the PMs will prevent a brake failure (brake lines rot from the inside.. even with silicon fluid).
Yes, you finally figured it out. Guys ask newbies if they've ever driven a truck this size (the reason you and I are discussing this in the first place) to see if they are prepared for what might happen.So NOW its NOT the brakes, but the driver and if he's 'got his head in the game'?
Despite what you might think, Im still going to say that driving a truck this size with no power steering and marginal brakes in traffic (in the city with tight right hand turns) could become an issue to someone that has never drive one before and I think most here would agree that its just not a good idea for soomeone new to the hobby to just hop in and go.
do they have a built in proportioning valve ? if not that would also needed .On a side note, I've seen a bunch of "the brakes are dangerous" replies to this guy.
Eastern Surplus is now selling M35A3 dual-circuit master cylinders.
I haven't checked yet, but I suspect it's a direct bolt on replacement for the A2 single-circuit master cylinder.
+1I wouldnt say the brakes are dangerous, just important. When properly maintained and not over worked they do their job and do it well, you just have to be prepared for when they give up the ghost.
thank you thank you thank youit is not as easy as bolting in a new master cylinder to make
your truck a dual circuit braking sytem.
you have to install a second airpack to utilize a dual circuit master cylinder.
airpacks are single circuit and if i am not mistaken the m35a3 is no exception to this rule.
brakes are important and since we as owners do not have the deep pockets of
uncle sam to pay for accidents and such we need to be vigilent as far as
making sure they are absolutely up to snuff.
realistically, someone's confidence should never be substituted for wisdom and caution when recovering a deuce, or any other mv for that matter. As was pointed out, momentum, and a lack of driver assistance devices along with a marginal emergency brake operation at speed make a deuce a rolling battering ram if the brakes fail.
i do not know about any of the rest of you but i do not want the memory of running over a civilian car and maiming or killing the occupants to be seared into my mind for the rest of my life because i was over confident. To me, to not be certain of safety equipment is the worst thing you can do in operating a deuce or any mv.
there are some who regale us with tales of daring do in their recovery stories and that makes for good reading. Some of those who tell their tales are many years experienced deuice and other mv owners and they do check everything and make absolutely certain that the trucks are fit to be on the road.
others talk about how they simply went to the pickup point, put some batteries in, bled the brakes and off they went, and made it home hundreds of miles without a problem. Whether or not these folks are as experienced is unknown and how much real preparation time did they spend, making sure things were good to go is not mentioned and it all seems like it was a novel way to spend an afternoon, or a couple of days picking up a truck. No offense, but that is not the least bit professional and in this litigious society we find outselves in today they risk everything they own everytime they engage in activities such as this.
worse yet are those who pick up their trucks, and drive them home without title or insurance. That is a personal trainwreck waiting to happen and as was mentioned previously, makes us all look bad as mv owners if anything bad happens.
my last point is that many of us are priviledged to be able to register our trucks as historic and save a ton of money in doing so. If any of the states that allow this get any notion that these trucks are unsafely maintained or are a hazard to the rest of the motoring public that cheap way to insure and operate a mv will disappear very quickly.
in summary, we have a responsibility to our fellow owners to be sure we operate our trucks in as safe a manner as possible and
nothing less will do in that respect.
just my ten cents worth
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