deuce wheels on an M105a3 trailer

[Darwin T]

does anyone know if the bolt pattern of the 20" 6 bolt duece rimes and the M105a3 22" 6 bolt rims are the same. i am going to put 11.00x20's on my deuce and would like to have the same tires on my trailer. i know that i will probably have to run the trailer tires reversed with the hubs like the outside of the duals, to clear the wheel wells.

 

[mhassett]

They are the same.
MHassett
Bush, LA

 

[Darwin T]

AWSOME! thanks for the info.

 

[Makincold]

I have 11x20's on one of my M105's with no problem

 

[Darwin T]

the problem with the M105a3's is the bed is wider than the M105a2's. it's not the height. the M105a3 uses the same tpye axles but they have a spacer on the end of the axles then these 22" rims, and a crappy little front landing gear. the new rims are inset instead of concaved.

why they changed it can only be to charge the goberment more money.

 

[Darwin T]

i don't want to hi-jack my own thread, but if anyone has a front landing gear with the mounting hub for a M105a3 PM me.

 

[Nonotagain]

The bolt pattern is the same, just that the M105A3 wheels are hub centric, meaning that the wheel is centered on the hub and not lug centric, meaning centered by the lug nuts.

You may not have to swap the wheel M35/A2 wheel to get it to clearance. The tires will be close to the bed support rails, but probably will just clear.

Also, the M105A3 uses a different axle than the M105A2.

The A2 axle is part # A1-32165981 and the A3 is 1066100.

They are not the same axles.

 

[Darwin T]

thanks, i was just going by what it looks like when i am laying on the ground under the trailer.

 

[merlot566jka]

Wait a min, so there are 22" rims that my fit the deuce with a hubcentric ring?? I think that opens up some options for tires on the deuce if thats true....

sorry, dont mean to hyjack your thread.

 

[Nonotagain]

Wait a min, so there are 22" rims that my fit the deuce with a hubcentric ring?? I think that opens up some options for tires on the deuce if thats true....

sorry, dont mean to hyjack your thread.

The tires aren't 22", they are 22.5" tires, tubeless radials.

The problem is that the wheels are only 7" wide or so. If looking for a wide tire option, this probably isn't the wheel for you. Also, you can't run them tandem unless you make a set of spacers.

 

[Darwin T]

Wait a min, so there are 22" rims that my fit the deuce with a hubcentric ring?? I think that opens up some options for tires on the deuce if thats true....

sorry, dont mean to hyjack your thread.

hi-jack away i think i got what i need.

i should have some pictures once the sun comes up.

 

[Darwin T]

the first picture is of the axle end of the M105a3, it looks like they just added a spacer to make the tires fit the wider bed.

the second picture is the 22.5" rims and tires on a M105a3, showing the rims are inset unlike the M105a2 (deuce tires).

the third picture is of the tiny space between the back of the tire and the inside of the wheel well.

 

[Darwin T]

The bolt pattern is the same, just that the M105A3 wheels are hub centric, meaning that the wheel is centered on the hub and not lug centric, meaning centered by the lug nuts.

You may not have to swap the wheel M35/A2 wheel to get it to clearance. The tires will be close to the bed support rails, but probably will just clear.

Also, the M105A3 uses a different axle than the M105A2.

The A2 axle is part # A1-32165981 and the A3 is 1066100.

They are not the same axles.

will the a2 tires center on the hubs?

 

[Nonotagain]

You need to use the A2 lug nuts and not the A3 ones.
The A3 nuts have a built in washer which won't compress into the cone on the A2 wheel.

 

[Darwin T]

Thanks Nonotagain. when i get my landing gear fixed i will try it out.

 

[scranch18121]

the problem with the M105a3's is the bed is wider than the M105a2's. it's not the height. the M105a3 uses the same tpye axles but they have a spacer on the end of the axles then these 22" rims, and a crappy little front landing gear. the new rims are inset instead of concaved.

why they changed it can only be to charge the goberment more money.

How did you get that trailer to do that...... ????
It has no rear leg down, no front landing gear attached, and not hooked up to anything.... but it is perfectly balanced and sitting there without support. great job.

 

[Nonotagain]

How did you get that trailer to do that...... ????
It has no rear leg down, no front landing gear attached, and not hooked up to anything.... but it is perfectly balanced and sitting there without support. great job.

Take a look again. There is a hitch ball in the middle of the lunette.
I suspect that it's attached to a fork truck.

 

[Darwin T]

i would like to say it's MAGIC or I am just that good, but yes it is a fork lift. this was taken while i had the landing gear off, torching it and hitting it like i was on steriods.

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

i would like to say it's MAGIC or I am just that good, but yes it is a fork lift. this was taken while i had the landing gear off, torching it and hitting it like i was on steriods.

OMG - Now the cat's outta the bag!!!

The whole world now knows that we are addicted to these MVs not in our natural state, but through the benefit of "GREEN IRON ENHANCING DRUGS"... what will they think of us all now????

This might be the advent of the SHTF Event... Ladies and Gentlemen:

PREPARE TO BUG OUT ! ! !​

 

[Darwin T]

ok i have a landing gear coming soon so now back to the tire question. does anyone know the inset on the back side of a M35a3 super single tire? i don't think the regular deuce tires will look right inverted. i have not measured the inset on the M105a3 yet. hopefully tonight when i get home from work. has anyone put a different wheel on an M105a3 since i first asked?