1009 mystery issue

[fuzzpuss]

Thanks guys for all the help... I pulled the IP and sent it off to get rebuilt...it'll be back here in 2 weeks. The pump had a LOT of slack in the innards when I would rotate the shaft. Like almost half way around before it would catch anything in the pump. Needless to say, it appeared that they had replaced it before, just some gut feeling and some clues like a few bolts that weren't very tight. Also how much are the glowplugs to replace?

 

[markg]

Thanks guys for all the help... I pulled the IP and sent it off to get rebuilt...it'll be back here in 2 weeks. The pump had a LOT of slack in the innards when I would rotate the shaft. Like almost half way around before it would catch anything in the pump. Needless to say, it appeared that they had replaced it before, just some gut feeling and some clues like a few bolts that weren't very tight. Also how much are the glowplugs to replace?

let me know how it works out, glow plugs are available at the box parts store for about 6-8 apiece. ac/60g. 10mm deep socket to get them loose, and pray they come out in one piece, they make a tool if they are swelled. if you do break one off, pull the injector and get the pieces out. when you get them out put power to them, 12v on the blade and ground the base, see if they heat up. you might not need all eight.

 

[stampy]

If you are not getting a good stream of fuel out of the lift pump you might want to replace that also since you have a remaned IP coming. My lift pump is dead I think, Friday my m1009 wouldn't start after my filter change and it took a 12v pump to prime the IP so I figure I have a dead fuel pump ($22) at autozone. It's running now but it's only a matter of time.

 

[markg]

If you are not getting a good stream of fuel out of the lift pump you might want to replace that also since you have a remaned IP coming. My lift pump is dead I think, Friday my m1009 wouldn't start after my filter change and it took a 12v pump to prime the IP so I figure I have a dead fuel pump ($22) at autozone. It's running now but it's only a matter of time.

be careful putting a new lift pump in, the rod that drives the pump can become dislodged and break when you tighten the pump bolts. i put some heavy grease on the rod to keep it from moving out. you can also turn the motor till its at the shortest point . thanks. good luck

 

[stampy]

Thanks for the advice I read the TM and will make sure to grease that sucka up. From what I gather it's a total PITA to get to the lift pump.

 

[markg]

Thanks for the advice I read the TM and will make sure to grease that sucka up. From what I gather it's a total PITA to get to the lift pump.

its really not that bad, but if you break the pump rod its more expensive than the pump you just bought. i broke two in one day yrs ago. lesson learned

also fyi, i installed a new lift pump on a truck without checking the clearance of the input tube to the frame. after installing the rubber line from the tank i see that the frame cross member is rubbing the rubber line , wich could cause a hole big time, sucking air over night. check it!!

 

[67_C-30]

its really not that bad, but if you break the pump rod its more expensive than the pump you just bought. i broke two in one day yrs ago. lesson learned

also fyi, i installed a new lift pump on a truck without checking the clearance of the input tube to the frame. after installing the rubber line from the tank i see that the frame cross member is rubbing the rubber line , wich could cause a hole big time, sucking air over night. check it!!

Ditto, and if the motor mounts are shot it can actually rub a hole in the fuel pump. I saw one once that was so bad that the passenger side manifold was sitting on the frame rail, and it had a rubbed a hole in the fuel pump from sitting on the crossmember.

 

[stampy]

I had read that! I wonder if it is worth putting the line inside a steel pipe just in case. I plan on keeping my M1009 for a real long time.

 

[markg]

I had read that! I wonder if it is worth putting the line inside a steel pipe just in case. I plan on keeping my M1009 for a real long time.

i dont think thats necessary, just eye ball the way it looks after the install, in the case i sighted i bent the metal intake tube up 1/2 inch, fixed the problem. thanks. mark

 

[rwoody]

hey what was the end result here on this unit......

mine is doing the same but i have a new inj pump on it 2 weeks ol

 

[doghead]

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[rwoody]

roger--i thought when i was approved that it would show!

now--do you have a answer to this thread?

 

[doghead]

I have no answer, or I would have posted already, sorry.

I have seen "new" pumps that are bad.

 

[rwoody]

ran 2 weeks while i pcs'd to here------new g60 plugs with button drove to lunch everything good then no start and no smoke!

will try and get some gas and give it a try

 

[bubba_got_you]

hey what was the end result here on this unit......

mine is doing the same but i have a new inj pump on it 2 weeks ol

do your gp's work? does the IP click with the key on?

 

[rwoody]

gp are fine..will not start on gas vapors--trys but can tell it has 0 fuel in injectors.
have elec fuel pump and return hose is letting fuel thru the INJ Pump--small return of fuel

I am thinking the fuel cutoff is not working..i can hear it click and have 12vt but 0 fuel at injectors(took line off no fuel)

 

[rwoody]

has weird tamper proof screws so i cannot take ing pump top off as of yet--got to catch a ride to buy a bit or screwdriver

can you run it with it off to check?

 

[bubba_got_you]

has weird tamper proof screws so i cannot take ing pump top off as of yet--got to catch a ride to buy a bit or screwdriver

can you run it with it off to check?

no but you can see if it works by turning on the key and it should move. if thats not it id say you have an air leak and its time to check hoses. crack an injector and see if there is fuel when you crank

 

[rwoody]

no fuel when crankin

thanks

old mtr pool SGT about 12 yrs ago.. trying to remember the old 6.2 thanks

i also need a POC down here for the 8v92 series that i have in my motor home.

 

[rwoody]

fuel cutoff on top was bad..had 1 off old pump

then the elec fuel pump quit--i guess the pre filter didnt catch it all --

thanks for all the ideas