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Just take everything apart and start rebuild it, looks like a nice project. A transmission for $ 275 even not perfect does not sound bad, but then, I am used to crazy European prizes.
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Anyone in need of an arctic cake hard top and doors? I'm heading to a place tomorrow to look at a transmission and some other associated parts 20 minutes from home. Also took the chance to pull the plugs and dump some marvel down the cylinders, see if I can even give the old 270 a fighting chance. There was some antifreeze on the cylinder on no.4... either way the head is gonna need to come off anyway.
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Found my transmission! 150 bucks 20 minutes from home.
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Friend of John's?
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No, this one is from.a different fella. I'm still gonna probably buy some stuff from John's buddy Ryan.
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Great find.
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Wow, awesome project!
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So, as an update for you fellas. I found, and subsequently purchased a 302 out of an M211. However, after reading the write up for them Im concerned about a couple things. Is the flywheel for the 270 going to fit on the 302 or will I have to source a new flywheel? Second, is something about the water pump. Will the 270 pump fit or no?
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The 302 has 6 bolts holding the flywheel to the crank, the 270 has 4. The 302 flywheel for the hydramatic won’t work with a clutch. 302 manual transmission flywheels are impossible to find. The 270 water pump will bolt in place of the 302. The 302 does not have a front motor mount on the timing chain plate as is needed for the CCKW. You will have to swap over the 270 plate which is a ton of work.
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Alright, the stuff about the motor mount I had read about but it wasnt really clear on the flywheel. I can get a flywheel made rather easily (I can make it myself) but need to figure out what differences there are between the 302 civvy flywheel and the 270 besides the bolt circle.
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Nothin’. I wondered if it was possible to use one hole and redrill 3 new ones.
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from the write-up I read he said it wasnt possible to redrill. If its true or not Im not real sure. If there isnt anything different from the 270 flywheel then i should have one a couple days after I get everything apart. Im a machinist with access to a CNC lathe that could turn it out in about 10 minutes. lol
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Maybe weld up the wrong holes. Not sure exactly what material the flywheel is made out of. But sure making a flywheel out of steel plate would work. The ring gear is shrunk on.
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I'll end up making a new one. We make flywheels for our business so its nothing out if the ordinary.
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I did some work on the truck today. While the engine swap wont be nearly as smooth as I would like, it still wont be bad. I pulled the intermediate shaft off the transmission and got the transfer case to spin "freely". I think the brake drum is dragging pretty good so I think Ill need to back that off a tad. I still havent bothered taking an inspection cover off the transmission yet, though i did pull the drain plug... to have absolutely nothing come out. I shined a flashlight inside and reinforced the fact that transmission is absolute garbage.
Also, I may have started something with myself I dont think I like... the fella I am buying the 302 from also has a complete (minus box) split axle CCKW. From the pictures I have it is in way better shape then my body is, though I am kinda leery of the timkin running gear. He has offered it to me at a reasonable price so I might just pick that up to... just have to find a place to put it for the time being. He said it ran a couple years ago but... as with this truck, we can see just how long a "couple years" really is.
Also, I may have started something with myself I dont think I like... the fella I am buying the 302 from also has a complete (minus box) split axle CCKW. From the pictures I have it is in way better shape then my body is, though I am kinda leery of the timkin running gear. He has offered it to me at a reasonable price so I might just pick that up to... just have to find a place to put it for the time being. He said it ran a couple years ago but... as with this truck, we can see just how long a "couple years" really is.
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Splits are actually a better driveline than banjo. A group of us took these two split axle trucks on a D-day tour of Europe last year, some 4000 miles between the two, never missed a beat.
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Are parts easy to come by for those axles? Maybe I'm better off just going with the other chassis or something?
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Parts availability for one drivetrain no worse than the other. Hey if you buy that second truck, I have the cut off winch extension frame pieces you would need to fix that frame.
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How much would it cost me to whip out one for me? Not sure my 302 is salvagable yet, but I WANT (not really need) to run that 302 in my G7123 COE (once I get done with the M135 and get a frame, that is).
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Bearings and seals are available for the H110s, a few are easier to find than the others....only had issue finding one seal, but patience amd eBay helped out.