4 wheel steering on a deuce?anyone done it?

[deuce_09]

im thinking of getting a five ton and bobbing it and i want to have four wheel steering

 

[jesusgatos]

Don't see any reason why not. Sounds like that would be almost a bolt-in.

 

[deuce_09]

im sorry dont know what u mean
bolt in?can u explain?

 

[jesusgatos]

Just meaning that relatively speaking, it doesn't sound like it would be too difficult. The framerails are straight (from front-to-back when looking from the top-down) and the axles are pretty much interchangeable. So you just need to check wheel/tire clearance through the whole range of suspension travel, and then decide how you want to tackle the rear-steer.

 

[deuce_09]

gotcha do u know anything about psc full hydro seering kit its what i plan to use

 

[jesusgatos]

Yeah, I'm planning on going full-hydro on the front of mah deuce. They make good stuff. SEarch pirate4x4.com for more info on hydro steering than you'll want to read.

 

[deuce_09]

since the frame is straight i shouldnt have any problems with the tires rubbing something?
i plan on running 53"xml's

 

[jesusgatos]

If they don't rub up front...

 

[deuce_09]

yea but i dont know if they rub with those tires or not..
dont look like much clearance in the pics ive seen

 

[jesusgatos]

What ties?

 

[mudguppy]

gotcha do u know anything about psc full hydro seering kit its what i plan to use

got the PSC kit on the front of my truck - i love it!!

i am actually contemplating this same thing (rear steer) since i now have the truck and some spare steer axles. because of how well the turning radius currently is, i'm not really all that sure that it would be that large of an advantage.

i will say this, however; if i do it i will use a seperate hydro pump to power the rear system. the front of my truck is so heavy that right now it's about all the system can handle, so i'd rather not tax the pump any more than it already is.

 

[deuce_09]

yea i saw ur build pics. nice job man i likted'it
heres another question..
if i still wanted tandem axles,could i possibly run tandem steering axles?
im sure pcs dont make a kit for that but my idea was to put a"T"joint in in the hose between the two axes and run them to both cylinders..if ther is such thing as a "T" joint
but IF there is one and IF that'll work that will make it to where both axles turn at the same time.....maybe?

 

[frodobaggins]

Two steering axles, sure. You just got to figure out the geometry and such to make it work right. And if you do get it working, you will be required to post it up, because one day I plan to make an 8x8, and would like two steering front axles

 

[deuce_09]

and did that psc kit come with the cylinder brackets?those are nice

 

[deuce_09]

and i guess u will be required to post that too huh?
mannn u got me thinking about how badass tandem steering front and rear axles would be...

 

[deuce_09]

O frodobaggins, i was talking to a buddy about 4ws on a rock crawler and he said that psc sells a kit for 4ws that has the option of auto centering and if ur only going to have full hydro steering on two axles that would probably be the best thing..
just a suggestion..

 

[russ81]

Your clearance issues will all depend on your wheels. The more back spacing, the more clearance to the frame. I'm running 6" of back spacing on 12" wide wheels with the 52" tires, and have good clearance.

 

[deuce_09]

thanx for the info russ and ive seen ur build..nicce

 

[FireFighterHill]

Has anyone mentioned the issue with 4 wheel steering at high speeds? Id sure want a way to lock it out, or pin the rear in place perfectly straight for when im driving between off road play grounds.

 

[jesusgatos]

Lots of people have built mechanical lock-outs for rear-steer. That's no big deal.