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[keway]

looking for ideas on breaking torque on the lugs.
i broke my breaker bar
looking for ideas on finding the bar that came with the truck
thanks.

 

[crazyplowboy]

Not sure if you are aware or not, but there are left and right hand threads on the lug nuts depending on the side of the truck.

Left side of the truck is Left hand thread, Right side of the truck is Right hand thread.

 

[doghead]

Also, look close, occasionally the studs/hubs get swapped to the opposite sides of the truck during routine maintenance., leaving you with left hand threads on the right side of the truck or right hand threads on the left side of the truck! Look close at the end of the stud, there is often an L or R on it.(or look at the threads closely)


Also, consider more(better) descriptive title words in the future, it will help everyone when we search for threads later on....

 

[GoHot229]

what he said, may have to get a penknife to scrape if it has layers of paint, but the male studs are marked for sure R&L

 

[11Echo]

For the tough ones I use my Ken-Tool 4 way. It has a forged center with a hole to insert a leverage bar. I usually just put my chain binder "boomer pipe" on one end for extra leverage.

Third pic is the Budd nut wrench.



To the original poster, you should ask the site manager to help you change the thread title.

 

[BKubu]

Two other suggestions...
1) I use a 6' section of pipe to increase my leverage. As long as the breaker bar has not been bent, it always breaks them loose. When a breaker bar has been bent, it is weakened and is much more likely to bend again when really stressed.
2) 3/4" impact

Good luck!

 

[Blood_of_Tyrants]

Get a 3/4" impact wrench.

 

[stumps]

Speaking of 3/4 inch impact wrenches. I have an old Skill, and it had little luck in removing the nuts from my deuce. We had a hard time with a 1 inch.

Also, do you guys use the deuce's air supply? Mine seemed to have about as much authority as a warm f*rt. I expected better given the size of the compressor. I was drawing off of the emergency glad hand, and the valve was open, but it took forever to air up the tires.

What is your experience in using the deuces air supply for inflating tires, and air impact tools?

-Chuck

 

[SCSG-G4]

Chuck,

Get a torque multiplier wrench (search the threads here for those conversations) to break loose the tough nuts (as long as you are going the correct direction).

For airing up the tires on the emergency air line - if they all need air, it's gonna be a while!

 

[zout]

believe it or not - when you are wrenching on a CLEAN stud - have someone smack the lug with a small sledge for impact - have to use these on semi trailer lugs all the time under a 1 inch impact with 125 lb of air behind it.

 

[Recovry4x4]

The deuce has little volume of air. I use a remote 7 gallon air tank right before the 1" Impact. There is a 10' section of 1/2" hose going to the gun. The tank gives enough volume to knock stuff loose but only one at a time. I also use the gear reduction wrench and it really works too.

 

[stampy]

Heat em up (moderately)with a propane torch then cool the stud with ice.If you hear a pop then the rust broke....apply penetrating oil to the now semi cool threads and it should draw the lubricant in to the lug threads.

 

[zout]

We use PB Blaster quite a bit and let it soak in - that is why I have 24 3/4 bicepts

 

[1stDeuce]

I broke the rears loose at work with a 3/4" impact on 140psi shop air, and they were tough... The fronts I did at home later... Couldn't budge them with a 3/4" breaker bar and a 4' pipe... A little heat on each with a map gas torch and I could loosen them but the first 1/4 turn was still not easy... they were TIGHT!! I think the military is really over-torquing the nuts... That combined with age makes them very difficult to remove.

On reassembly, I used a little grease on each and ran them tight with my 1/2" impact at 80psi on shop air, and I can pretty easily loosen them even with the pathetically short breaker handle that came with the truck. My gun has to be getting them past 200ftlb, so I think that's plenty tight, and servicable if I have a flat. Breaking them loose, I was PUTTING OUT, so let's say I can put out 200lb of lifting on the end of a 4' pipe. That's 800ftlb to break them loose, after heat...

C

 

[zout]

1 word - antiseize

 

[scooter01922]

Ditto kenny. I got 25 feet of 3/8 line to a 5 gal remote tank and about 6 feet of 1/2 in line to the gun. Only good for one at a time but it does get them just fine

 

[kipman]

I have done this many times, if you are going the correct way, smack the socket with a sledge hammer, it breaks the rust loose, may have to hit more than once.

 

[datsunaholic]

When I was in the reserves we had a 109 that hadn't had the wheels off in probably 10 years, PLUS it had waded out in saltwater 6 months prior. Had a inner dual flat, and had to get the wheels off... No air impact guns anywhere.

We did have one of those huge spring-loaded impact wrenches. What eventually got the dang lugnuts off: Used the "stock" lug wrench with a solid jack handle through the hole, a 6' pipe on the jack handle, and the spring-loaded impact wrench went in the "square" end of the lug wrench. It took BOTH. But we got the wheel off.

 

[stumps]

That must be why the operator's manual says to ask your supervisor to tighten the lugs after you change a tire.

-Chuck

 

[stumps]

The real annoyance comes when you try to loosen the 1-1/2 inch outer nut, but after the first turn, the rust grabs hold, and the inner budd nut decides it wants to come off of the perfectly rust free inner stud. Then things get interesting.

-Chuck