My Buddy Sgt. Fred Caughlin, was actually one of the small group of guys to put together the first gun trucks in Iraq, He has had a couple of storys done on him by the Army and guard, one truck had reactive armor from a T72,He said it was a bitch finding someone who could weld it, to the bed, the 50's on the first 2 trucks were mounted on cut up Hemmit tow bars, just long posts in the back, i will get pics from him when i can, David U may be interested in talking to him, its a great thing they did, at first all they heard was" what do U think Your in Vietnam?" it took alot of old style bartering to get the welding and steel, and stuff to put the first 2 together, its a GREAT story, and one was the" Jersey devil," they did it and everyone thet saw em just like in the old days copied em fast. Randy