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Dmoneygage

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Hey Dennis, I was looking at that one also, thought it was weird that it doesn't run but has pics of running dash......
I'm hoping to go out there in the next month, I'll try to take a look at it, the manager is super helpful there.
I've been so busy with this shut down I haven't even had time to look at my own rig, but hopefully once your euc clears I'll have a couple minutes free time to help you get this all sorted.
I'll let you know of any progress on my end.
Oh man that would be awesome. Keep me posted on when you are going out there. I am going to check with interstate batteries about purchasing used batteries. Maybe on your way you could scoop those up (I’ll pay by credit card). I’d be happy to pay you. Especially since if I fly over I gotta quarantine for 2 weeks. I’ll have to wait til after the quarantine and now I read it is until May 31.
I was mistaken about thinking the gauges showed a running dash. Apparently the gauges read random until the main power switch is engaged. I assumed they all went back to zero or the like. Fellow member NDT pointed that out and I also looked at some other non running auction pictures and they had same “running looking” but actual just random.
 

In2Fords

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I'll let you know, but I don't think you want batteries kept there....
I have no proof but I think a yard pirate swapped my starter?
Also check out battery bills in mapunapuna, they have reconditioned group 27 batteries for cheap and will test your batteries for cheap if they are good or free if they aren't......
 

Dmoneygage

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I'll let you know, but I don't think you want batteries kept there....
I have no proof but I think a yard pirate swapped my starter?
Also check out battery bills in mapunapuna, they have reconditioned group 27 batteries for cheap and will test your batteries for cheap if they are good or free if they aren't......
I was thinking that if you do go out there it would be nice to have some good batteries to try and start the truck, no, do not leave out there. I agree that stuff probably disappears out there.
It sounds suspect that you could start your truck one month and then the next it doesn’t start, the starter is bad, and the wires are hand tight. I hate getting robbed. On the other hand, the man that helped you check the relays, verify that your starter was bad and sell you one for $350 on the spot was a blessing.
Have you bench tested the “bad starter”? I read that the main starter does not usually go bad more likely the solenoid. Thanks for the tip about battery Bills. I’ll check them out.
 

In2Fords

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It was definently a blessing, he took old starter as core.
It was the solenoid that is booked to starter, the one that kicks out the starter gear to engage flex plate.
They have a truck to use with a slave cable, if those miles are accurate I'd suspect fuel gelling.
 

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Not to hijack this thread But I just got one a M1078 also in Hawaii. I am going through the EUC. It will need batteries but it does run . What I need is a good mechanic to install the batteries and check the 35 psi oil pressure. I think it might be a oil pressure sender or perhaps low on oil. but who knows.

In2Fords if you know of a direction to go in to get a good mechanic I would appreciate it. Leave me a PM Thanks. By the way mine cost $875. Shipping to California? Well that's gonna hurt!!!
 

Dmoneygage

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It was definently a blessing, he took old starter as core.
It was the solenoid that is booked to starter, the one that kicks out the starter gear to engage flex plate.
They have a truck to use with a slave cable, if those miles are accurate I'd suspect fuel gelling.
I can’t find any info on fuel gelling in these trucks. Just for low temperatures but not Hawai’i. Maybe old fuel could be a problem? Has anyone had any experience with old fuel? The truck has some black crayon writing on the hood that says 2018. Is fuel that old possibly going to pose problem?
 

In2Fords

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Not to hijack this thread But I just got one a M1078 also in Hawaii. I am going through the EUC. It will need batteries but it does run . What I need is a good mechanic to install the batteries and check the 35 psi oil pressure. I think it might be a oil pressure sender or perhaps low on oil. but who knows.

In2Fords if you know of a direction to go in to get a good mechanic I would appreciate it. Leave me a PM Thanks. By the way mine cost $875. Shipping to California? Well that's gonna hurt!!!
Hopefully it's simple as sender, im really not knowledgeable enough on these motors to guess.
The batteries are easy enough, but the oil issue, what should it be at idle?
 

In2Fords

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I can’t find any info on fuel gelling in these trucks. Just for low temperatures but not Hawai’i. Maybe old fuel could be a problem? Has anyone had any experience with old fuel? The truck has some black crayon writing on the hood that says 2018. Is fuel that old possibly going to pose problem?
I have no idea on how long your fuel has been in there, but old diesel will gel and even grow alge, that's what I'm talking about, old fuel.
It'll clog up all kinds of things, I know the guy that bought 40+trucks, just this last trip, bid on mostly non runners and got the majority running by cracking open fuel lines and blowing them out then priming the system, but he was also towing out atleast 5 a day.......
 

In2Fords

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Since we don't have cold weather, but do have lots of humidity and condensation, this is what we call fuel gelling, algea, actually microbes growing in the water and tank walls above the fuel, it's a little more common then anything else here.
 

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On air brakes, the parking brake applies with strong springs in one of the sets of diaphragms the rear.
When the engine is running and there is air built up in the system, when you "release" the parking brake with that yellow knob it actually uses air to over ride that spring and allow the brake shoes to retract so you can roll.
With an non runner, and the air system empty, the parking brake is stuck on. "Caging the brakes" is accomplished by a bolt that is inserted in the parking brake diaphragms and tightened to retract the spring manually releasing the park feature. We can see the long bolt sticking out of the rear diaphragm in one of the pics. You would cage them to tow or push or pull it around. It can be driven that way but you wont have parking brakes. Do a you tube search for a more thorough explanation and visuals. When you uncage the brakes, the bolt you remove gets stored in a little holder on the diaphragm.
 

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I can’t find any info on fuel gelling in these trucks. Just for low temperatures but not Hawai’i. Maybe old fuel could be a problem? Has anyone had any experience with old fuel? The truck has some black crayon writing on the hood that says 2018. Is fuel that old possibly going to pose problem?
There is a drain bolt on the bottom of the fuel tank. Drain out the old fuel and add at least 15 gallons of fresh fuel.

I recommend replacing the fuel filters at this time too. At a minimum do the secondary(fine) filter. The water separator is a plastic bowl under the primary(coarse) filter.

Hand prime the system with that rubber plunger on the primary filter housing.
Pumping it till your hand gives out will flush the lines of old fuel and air.
 

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Hand prime the system with that rubber plunger on the primary filter housing.
Pumping it till your hand gives out will flush the lines of old fuel and air.
is there an easy place to put in a cheap permanent or temporary elec. fuel pump back by the tank on these truck.? Ive always put a cheapy one on my diesels so if there is an air leak at a bad time.. I can overcome it with pump assistance. Cheapy works cause it rarely gets turned on.

would be a good time for this to be done if its not difficult to plump.....would certainly make priming hell a lot of easier... esp. since the primer itself is a common air leak spot.
 

DREDnot

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is there an easy place to put in a cheap permanent or temporary elec. fuel pump back by the tank on these truck.? Ive always put a cheapy one on my diesels so if there is an air leak at a bad time.. I can overcome it with pump assistance. Cheapy works cause it rarely gets turned on.

would be a good time for this to be done if its not difficult to plump.....would certainly make priming hell a lot of easier... esp. since the primer itself is a common air leak spot.
Probably easiest on top of the tank itself.



Ive been really happy with the hand pump though . Priming has always been quick and easy.
 

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coachgeo

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Probably easiest on top of the tank itself.



Ive been really happy with the hand pump though . Priming has always been quick and easy.
thanks... yeah looks like one could make up in advance a pig tail with a pump in it to fit right into the lines.

Again though advantage to the aux. pump is not for when your hand pump works good..... it is for when it does not (or is an unknown such as in this case)..... such as when an air leak pops up at an inconvenient time or location AKA- you can't drive down the road by using the hand pump to overcome an air leak that popped up unexpectedly. Much easier to trace/service at home base or shop than side of trail or road.
 

Dmoneygage

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There is a drain bolt on the bottom of the fuel tank. Drain out the old fuel and add at least 15 gallons of fresh fuel.

I recommend replacing the fuel filters at this time too. At a minimum do the secondary(fine) filter. The water separator is a plastic bowl under the primary(coarse) filter.

Hand prime the system with that rubber plunger on the primary filter housing.
Pumping it till your hand gives out will flush the lines of old fuel and air.
That’s a good idea. Can you typically smell diesel and tell if it’s bad? Maybe inspect inside the tank with a flashlight and look for water, sediment, cloudiness? Not sure if you can tell by looking or smelling.
 

In2Fords

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That black crayon writing is black sharpie writing when the truck got inspected by GP, also pictures were taken in Pearl Harbor and now its here in Pasha storage.

Hope you have patience. My first euc took 11 months.
I was wondering about that, mine said pearl but it was out west side.
Do all the ones from pearl go out to kapolei? There's a couple of like to buy for parts but not if they stay on base.
 
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