ATF red dye?

[quickfarms]

The government can use red fuel because the DOD pays a large portion of the federal highway funds

 

[wilogger]

Update, my friend got 2 fines one from the Feds, one from the state both around a $1000.00, plus an Audit, that was a real pain days of paperwork.

 

[doghead]

Any idea what the fines were actually for?

 

[wilogger]

I think he called it a fuel tax penalty.

 

[m16ty]

It basically boils down to tax evasion and the charges are usually akin to something along those lines.

 

[doghead]

I'm wondering to what extent did they test. I'd like to know the science of this situation.


Not that this would hold up in court but, think of the hundreds of gallons of fuel we do buy and use in off road equipment(mowers, tractors, generators etc...) that we do pay road tax on.


In this case if he had 50 gallons of ATF(non taxed"fuel"), does it seam fair to have been penalized at all, let alone for it's color alone? Surely they tested it.

 

[insanejecke]

I know a .5 micron filter will take the color out of off road diesel. But I know in SC they take sample and don't do it by color. IF it reacts then it non tax if it doesn't you can still get a fine for using non road tax fuel. like if u don't have a permanent and your running anything other then diesel you can get a fine for it anyways.

 

[m16ty]

I know a fellow that got fined here in TN. They pulled a sample of fuel that turned up red. At that point he was fined by the officer and the officer took a bigger sample of fuel as evidence and I assume for further testing to be used in court.

I was also told by a TN state trooper that if he pulls a sample and it has any red tint to it, you're getting a ticket. He said it would be up to you to prove in court that you just added some ATF if that's the case.

 

[Shoprat 19th Engr]

If you do use red dye fuels you need to get a few of those plastic totes and fill them up with red dyed fuel and the Suns rays will fade out the red dye color in a couple of months

 

[Captaincarrier]

From my understanding the ferderal excise tax regarding fuel, the fine is $10 per gallon of fuel or $1,000 which ever is greater.

 

[Speddmon]

I know a .5 micron filter will take the color out of off road diesel. But I know in SC they take sample and don't do it by color. IF it reacts then it non tax if it doesn't you can still get a fine for using non road tax fuel. like if u don't have a permanent and your running anything other then diesel you can get a fine for it anyways.

If you do use red dye fuels you need to get a few of those plastic totes and fill them up with red dyed fuel and the Suns rays will fade out the red dye color in a couple of months

For those of you just joining in on this conversation and anybody else, please refrain from posting ways to try to circumvent the laws. We will not tolerate the use of our forum to talk about ways to break laws. Thank you.

 

[JCKnife]

I've never bought off-road fuel but the deuce I parted out, that I got from Ft. Knox, had red diesel in it. That was over a year and a half ago and I still have a jug of it (I work on my deuce more than drive it).

 

[Carlo]

I thought this crap only happened here in Italy!! I run soyoil and its againist the law here. I have been stopped and they took a sample but I stated I bought fuel from the fuel station and go ask them. All fuel stations selling dsl in Italia have 15 % mixed in.
I have heard trans oil cleans the injectors but I would not use it often.

 

[svd dragunov]

I wonder what theyd say if they pulled mine. "why is your fuel dyed black?". Id probably still be in the same boat.

 

[Scar59]

Run a little "ashless" 2 stroke oil to help substitute the low lube in ultra-low sulfur fuel, works well, dyes the fuel green/blue.
JC

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

Wouldn't it be FUN to add some GLOW-IN-THE-DARK dye to your fuel and label the tank RADIOACTIVE ! ! !

 

[Flyingvan911]

It would be funny at first but but I suspect the situation would turn bad quickly. Still a funny idea.

 

[PETE BALLARD]

With the cost of atf, why would anyone use it instead of just buying fuel with the rOad tax "in"? The only time i can see anyone adding it is for the purpose of appling maintenance to the fuel system

 

[Heath_h49008]

ATF cleans the system and has more energy per cc than diesel.

For regular diesel, the addition of cheap Wallyworld 2-stroke oil seems to be the best method of boosting lubricity.

 

[svd dragunov]

I like the glow in the dark dye. where would one aquire that? might be fun for halloween.