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No. But I said some good points I think in the other post that would help others
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Bad Bill for Title Military Surplus Off Road Moves to Virginia Senate
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The VA 4 Wheel Drive Association is also pushing its members to support this bill because of SEMA. I am calling the president and letting them know this is not in our best interest. I had read their email the other day since I have been a member for 20 years or so, but never looked at it as a problem since my MV's have antique tags and don't drive them much.
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I sent word to MISSION BBQ of Richmond that their fleet of BBQ trucks are about to be decommissioned. They are going to engage, I hope. They understood the implications of the bill when I explained it, I think.
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I sent word to MISSION BBQ of Richmond that their fleet of BBQ trucks are about to be decommissioned. They are going to engage, I hope. They understood the implications of the bill when I explained it, I think.
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Yes. They have one in Gainesville now.
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Doesn't this definition mean that anywhere the words"military surplus off-road motor vehicle" is used, they are talking about the HMMWV specifically?
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I wouldn't count on it. If you were a left leaning judge, who wanted all those big scary green trucks off the road, how would you interpret this -
"The provisions of this section shall apply to all owners of military surplus motor vehicles registered with the Department under any other provision of this Code prior to July 1, 2018. Such "
Would you apply it only to hmmwv's? Or would you interpret it to mean what it clearly states, "all military surplus motor vehicles" ?
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The current bill text I read designated a surplus vehicle and anything formerly owned by the DoD and subsequently authorized for sale to civilians, meaning all ex-Mil trucks. Perhaps it started as HMMWV specific.
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Did you get an answer or a reply on this, CARMAN?
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We have seen the old version of the bill. The new version is worse.
It changes the registration fee from $50 to $100.
It changes the miles away from home allowance from 250 to 125.
And it requires you to provide your home address and destination address to the officer so he can determine whether it is legal.
It changes the registration fee from $50 to $100.
It changes the miles away from home allowance from 250 to 125.
And it requires you to provide your home address and destination address to the officer so he can determine whether it is legal.
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Scary development #2. The original bill that was drafted in January ALLOWED regular plating of military vehicles that went through regular inspections. THEY REMOVED that section of the bill in the final bill that passed.
This is potentially very bad news.
I have my suspicions about WHY it was like that.
This is potentially very bad news.
I have my suspicions about WHY it was like that.
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I just got written support from SEMA's legal action team on our proposed amendment.
Not sure if that means anything... but we'll see.
Not sure if that means anything... but we'll see.
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So what is the latest with it? I called my state senator and he or his associates never have returned my call.
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I'm updating with all I know at this point. Senate committee meeting is tomorrow, and I think we'll have a lot more information then.
I've devoted about 2 full days to this, and I'm about to have to stop for today so I can make another 100 mirrors for a customer I have and deliver early in the AM.
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Can you send info on this so I can forward to VA4WDA
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Can I get contact info to forward to VA4WDA
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Just got off the phone with them. They are contacting state legislation and contacts at DMV. They also have contacts with SEMA and are making those calls.
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My contact is the director of the legal action committee at SEMA. I will PM his contact info.
Just to throw this out...I have a dump truck, an m929 that I use occasionally around the farm and within maybe 20 miles. I didn't buy it for parades and I'm not using it commercially. It's use is occasional.
You should have a farm designation also, that while restricted, recognizes these vehicles have some WORK left in them but that their use may be seasonal or intermittent, spending most of their time sitting. Commercial plates should not be required for farm use and they should be much cheaper.
Sorry if I repeated someone else's idea, I didn't see it mentioned.
For a long time I have argued that we should be proactive on this, recognizing using them in city, suburbs and country, hobby and farm use, since the US Government did just sell us all this equipment. But unfortunately it became a taboo topic, rather than all rowing together in one boat for reasonable laws. This is by far the largest MV site and should take a lead...in my opinion.
You should have a farm designation also, that while restricted, recognizes these vehicles have some WORK left in them but that their use may be seasonal or intermittent, spending most of their time sitting. Commercial plates should not be required for farm use and they should be much cheaper.
Sorry if I repeated someone else's idea, I didn't see it mentioned.
For a long time I have argued that we should be proactive on this, recognizing using them in city, suburbs and country, hobby and farm use, since the US Government did just sell us all this equipment. But unfortunately it became a taboo topic, rather than all rowing together in one boat for reasonable laws. This is by far the largest MV site and should take a lead...in my opinion.