• Steel Soldiers now has a few new forums, read more about it at: New Munitions Forums!

  • Microsoft MSN, Live, Hotmail, Outlook email users may not be receiving emails. We are working to resolve this issue. Please add support@steelsoldiers.com to your trusted contacts.

Broke your motor from WMO?

stampy

Active member
1,321
22
38
Location
Henderson. NC
Gasoline that is not cut with oil WILL Destroy a Diesel engine. I have used WVO, WMO, Hydraulic oil, rarely diesel, transmission fluid, heating oil. All Burn but I cut the WMO with a little diesel or gas. Oh and just invest in a centrifuge. Wolverine Technologies makes them and he is a member here.
 

DRYGULCH57

New member
27
0
0
Location
MANILA UT
distilate fuel

distillate fuel = moonshine
make sure you dilute this stuff
straight this stuff is toxic to diesels, gas engines, and human beings
 

stampy

Active member
1,321
22
38
Location
Henderson. NC
Maybe if the SHTF otherwise I would avoid it. The alcohol in E85 is not good for engines. I have even noticed gas seems to go bad faster if it has alcohol in it.
 

tm america

Active member
2,600
24
38
Location
merrillville in
I run mine mostly on use aft.I get 35 gals or more from work every week or so. I prefilter thru a 10 micron filter that fits the top of my 275 gal tanks i have for storage..Running waste oil will clog filters faster but is well worth it when you think about the cost difference or 36 bucks for filters and a free tank of fuel or 3 bucks a gal x 50 gal?That is not really how it works as you get alot of tanks full of fuel before filters need changed.I keep an extra set of filters in my truck at all times they can be a life saver since you can't just get them anywhere
 

stumps

Active member
1,700
12
38
Location
Maryland
distillate fuel = moonshine
make sure you dilute this stuff
straight this stuff is toxic to diesels, gas engines, and human beings
Sorry, no.

Distillate fuel is short for Petroleum Distillate fuel. It is just heavy fuel oil, such as would be used in a boiler, or furnace. It is also used in locomotives, and some stationary engines.

-Chuck
 

SilentSpeedy

New member
25
0
0
Location
Coopersville, MI
I am looking at buying a centrifuge and saw you added gas to the mix for cold start. I got an NHC 250 and its pretty hard to start in even mild weather. How much gas is safe to add? I'd like to try it but don't want to blow up my engine.
 

stampy

Active member
1,321
22
38
Location
Henderson. NC
NHC 250???? In Mi I have no idea as we Never get THAT cold here in NC. My blend is about 30% diesel 65% WVO and 5% gasoline for winter. I use no gas and 20/80 for summer.
 

stumps

Active member
1,700
12
38
Location
Maryland
I am looking at buying a centrifuge and saw you added gas to the mix for cold start. I got an NHC 250 and its pretty hard to start in even mild weather. How much gas is safe to add? I'd like to try it but don't want to blow up my engine.
The gasoline is there to thin the fuel so that it can get out of the tank and through the filters. Gasoline is harder to ignite in a diesel engine than diesel fuel. It is only because of the MF engine's 22.5:1 compression ratio that gasoline can be burned.

-Chuck
 

panshark

Member
544
11
18
Location
Idaho Falls, ID
I'm going to stick my neck out, I think running wmo/tranny fluid/gear oil (i.e. a mixture of whatever it is that got drained out at the farm, sans coolant) might have caused the o-ring in my manifold heater fuel nozzle to fail. I started getting a healthy dose of oil right onto the top of the turbo. I could visually observe the nozzle leaking from the rear-facing end during operation. I pulled the nozzle, and found an intact o-ring, with flattened strips on the inside and outside of the ring. (Sides still looked pretty good.) I'm not going to fully blame my fuel mixture (which did include 20% gasoline) on the part failure, but it would be a good opportunity to advise on adding an appropriate o-ring to the goody bag of emergency parts, it looks like maybe a size 014 o-ring. --Someone please correct me on the size if I'm wrong-- I swung by Checker-Oreilly and asked for fuel resistant o-ring, got a close visual match (but no cigar), researched the rubber type--Buna-n, decided not to install it due to low oil resistance characteristics of that rubber. I am looking to go with a Viton or Kalrez type O-ring to replace it, as they are rated well for oil/chemical resistance. If the o-ring that failed in my duece was made by lowest bidder, it could well have been made out of Buna-n rubber.

Truck engine is still running great on multi-fuel mix.
 

stampy

Active member
1,321
22
38
Location
Henderson. NC
It's possible...but chances are unless you are running biodiesel that it was just old. Biodiesel that is unwashed (washing makes it pH neutral) is very basic and destroys rubber parts. I have been running my blend for about 6 years now in my almost daily driver with no adverse effects so far....except for having to change filters more often before I got my centrifuge. Replacing the rubber parts is one of those things that is important with vehicles that are over 20 years old as they are past or nearing the end of their useful life IMO. Viton is an excellent choice if you can find it.
 

stumps

Active member
1,700
12
38
Location
Maryland
One small warning relative to viton: If you ever come across a viton O-ring that has burned, DO NOT TOUCH IT!

Viton is an excellent product made with fluorine, but when it burns, it turns into some very nasty stuff. Fluorine products have an affinity for calcium (hence fluoride in toothpaste), pass easily through skin, and this stuff (HF) dissolves your bones. A very small amount is all that is necessary to seriously weaken the bones in your fingers.... Kind of like a self inflicted case of osteoporosis.

-Chuck
 

panshark

Member
544
11
18
Location
Idaho Falls, ID
wow, awesome warning stumps! thanks so much for that advice. Any warnings about Kalrez material?

Stampy, any other rubber parts come to mind that I should look forward to replacing? (besides the ever-elusive front axle dust boots that will last longer than 5 minutes)
 

stampy

Active member
1,321
22
38
Location
Henderson. NC
I replaced some of my fuel lines (need to replace them all as I think that may be what causes occasional hot start issues) , and the filter housing (went with a spin on). I also replaced window exterior rubber. I still need to find the seal that mates the body and camper shell though.
 

stumps

Active member
1,700
12
38
Location
Maryland
wow, awesome warning stumps! thanks so much for that advice. Any warnings about Kalrez material?
Both Viton, and Kalrez are DuPont fluoroelastomers. That means they both contain fluorine in their chemical structure. They both would be a problem after they burn.

On the bright side, because of the fluorine, they are very hard to burn.

-Chuck
 
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website like our supporting vendors. Their ads help keep Steel Soldiers going. Please consider disabling your ad blockers for the site. Thanks!

I've Disabled AdBlock
No Thanks