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Can you legally own a functional T34?

Blood_of_Tyrants

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I am not sure what "demiled" actually amounts to: pour concrete into the barrel, remove the firing mechanism?

Anyway, maybe for export, but at this moment would not bet on it, might actually be really and fully functional, would depend on when he bought it. This is the Czech army selling Russian "junk", not the US government.
Demilled means that the breech has to be torch cut in half and a hole approximately half the diameter of the barrel has to be torch cut in the barrel near the breech.
 

SETOYOTA

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you can own intact armor with a working main gun in the good ole USA. You don't need any sort of approval to own a armored vehicle just the correct change.

BTW When did guns become so controlled in the UK? Was it some time around 1776?:grin:
 

Augdog1964

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T-34

I own an operational T-34... breech intact ready to shoot... IF you could find the shells... which don't hardly exist!

Augdog1964
T55/T34/BMP-1/BPzV/OT-90/BTR60/BTR40
 

TexAndy

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What paperwork do you need to have a functional T-34 gun ?
Are you a museum or ? Gun dealer licensed?
"Destructive Device" as defined by Federal law:

Any firearm with a bore over 0.50 inch except for shotguns or shotgun shells which have been found to be generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes. (Many firearms with bores over 0.50" inch, such as 20-gauge or 12-gauge shotguns, are exempted from the law because they have been determined to have a "legitimate sporting use".

Also, actual explosives count as DDs, in which case everything I've mentioned below will apply, with the addition of having a proper magazine to store the explosives in.

Destructive devices require you to submit a "Form 1" if you are building one or a "Form 4" if you are buying one. Also, remit $200 tax. This tax is paid every time the gun is transferred. So if you ever sold it, either you or the person buying it would remit $200 to the ATF in tax. You also have to get your local chief law enforcement officer to sign off on it (some States require their cLEOs to sign off on NFA stuff, I think) but this can be difficult as some chiefs and sheriffs will refuse you. Also you have to submit a passport photo and fingerprints.

Alternatively, you can skip everything but the tax by having your Trust (for which you will be both the grantor and the settlor/trustee) buy and own the NFA item on your behalf. This has been an effective way to bypass recalcitrant police chiefs and sheriffs in the past, but the window of opportunity may be closing as the ATF is basically rewriting the law by administrative action.

Black powder muzzle loaders don't generally qualify as firearms, hence, why you can legally build or buy a a civil war cannon without any sort of registration or paperwork.
 

TexAndy

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you can own intact armor with a working main gun in the good ole USA. You don't need any sort of approval to own a armored vehicle just the correct change.

BTW When did guns become so controlled in the UK? Was it some time around 1776?:grin:


As far as acquiring armored vehicles go, the Brits are in a WAY better position than we are.
 
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