Clutch adjustment clevis removal?

[rolling18]

Need to adjust free play on clutch pedal.
since installing winch the drive shaft now blocks the clevis that ataches to the threaded arm towards the front.

How do you remove that "pin" now since there is no room to swing an object to push it through so I can turn it to adjust the clutch??
Ideas???\
(other than removing the front winch shaft)

 

[m16ty]

You just push it out. There is a ball and spring in it that fits into a groove in the pin to act as a detent. Just don't try to take the pin all the way out. If you do the spring and the ball will go flying.

Edit- I didn't read your post close enough. After I read it I realize you have clearance problems and not a problem with the pin itself. Disregard my post.

 

[rolling18]

You just push it out. There is a ball and spring in it that fits into a groove in the pin to act as a detent. Just don't try to take the pin all the way out. If you do the spring and the ball will go flying.

Edit- I didn't read your post close enough. After I read it I realize you have clearance problems and not a problem with the pin itself. Disregard my post.

HAHA yes.. that IS my problem!! CLEARANCE only about 1" but thanks for trying! you at least understand what i'm trying to do
thanks!!

 

[Speddmon]

You're probably just gonna have to drop the driveshaft for the winch until you get the clutch adjusted.

 

[rolling18]

You're probably just gonna have to drop the driveshaft for the winch until you get the clutch adjusted.

noo! going by the lack of responces here, I was afraid of that, well I put the winch in I guess I can take the shaft out.

Thanks
Marc

 

[clinto]

I will try to remember to look at ours when I get home, but I could have sworn I adjusted the clutch in at least 2 of our trucks without pulling the driveshaft.

 

[rolling18]

I will try to remember to look at ours when I get home, but I could have sworn I adjusted the clutch in at least 2 of our trucks without pulling the driveshaft.

when I say drive shaft, I'm referring to the PTO shaft as it runs right right next to everything in that area. NOT the front drive axles

 

[clinto]

when I say drive shaft, I'm referring to the PTO shaft as it runs right right next to everything in that area. NOT the front drive axles

Yeah, I know. I should have phrased it differently.

Like I said, I don't remember pulling the winch driveshaft to remove the pin. I could be wrong.

 

[gringeltaube]

..... going by the lack of responces here ....

Probably because no one else ever had THAT problem.......?

Frankly I don't see any clearance issues at all.
If the pin is oriented like in the photo below, just grab the head with a vice-grip and twist/pull out. Otherwise use a punch or rod and knock - push it out. That simple!

G.

 

[rolling18]

Probably because no one else ever had THAT problem.......?

Frankly I don't see any clearance issues at all.
If the pin is oriented like in the photo below, just grab the head with a vice-grip and twist/pull out. Otherwise use a punch or rod and knock - push it out. That simple!

G.

wow!! great picture!! and soo nice and clean!! i could eat off it!

anyway, its not oriented that way, the part i would grasp onto with the vice grips is on the opposite side of yours.

as for the punch idea, thats where i need clearance, as there is to much angle, and the tool simply slides off

 

[gringeltaube]

Keep trying!

First, make sure the pin rotates freely! Eventually add some PB oil.
Then, use a center punch if a normal one slips off.
Or a short rod and improvise something to create leverage, to push against it, more horizontally.
Or clamp the vice-grip on the head and use any kind of bar stock to knock against the tool...

Anything, but DO NOT pull the driveshaft... (since that would be like accepting defeat!)

G.

 

[rolling18]

those are some GREAT ideas!
here is MY picture, you can see how the pin looks like a different style, and is turned opposite of the other persons picture

The Blue area shows how I am unable to reach that end to grip it
The RED area is the one I am unable to tap through also because of clearance angle

 

[Speddmon]

Do you have the room to rotate the clevis? The clevis is threaded onto the rod and held tight with a jam nut. Loosen the nut, hold the rod with some pliers elsewhere (where you have room) and rotate the clevis to orient it as the one in G's picture. Then just tighten the jam nut back up and then you should be able to pull the pin as G suggested and do your adjustment.

 

[rolling18]

Do you have the room to rotate the clevis? The clevis is threaded onto the rod and held tight with a jam nut. Loosen the nut, hold the rod with some pliers elsewhere (where you have room) and rotate the clevis to orient it as the one in G's picture. Then just tighten the jam nut back up and then you should be able to pull the pin as G suggested and do your adjustment.

I understand what you are saying, however I cannot rotATE the clevis because the pin (thats i need to push through) is holding the bracket going up... so I cant turn it.

This is quite the puzzle for me!

 

[Speddmon]

DUH!!

I knew that

I forgot that it had the other part through opening of the clevis. It's been a LONG time since I've had to do the clutch adjustment

 

[rolling18]

DUH!!

I knew that

I forgot that it had the other part through opening of the clevis. It's been a LONG time since I've had to do the clutch adjustment

LOL so now u see my predicament!

 

[Speddmon]

I think G has you on the right track and has a good idea.

Spray the pin and clevis down with PB Blaster and let is sit for a few hours, and do it again, and maybe again if you are not in a hurry. This will loosen things up some. Take a piece of round metal bar stock a little smaller in diameter then your pin and make yourself a "prybar" with that.

Measure the distance from the end of the clevis to the side of the transmission or anything solid nearby. Bend the bar stock in a 90 or there abouts, and leave the leg a little shorter then you need to fit into the space. Then you can use the long end as a handle and pry the pin over. Or get a screw driver or an actual bar behind the home made pusher and pry over with that. A little ingenuity and patients and I'm sure you can get it out.

 

[rolling18]

yes I agree, and will start with the PB and go from there with you peoples suggestions!

 

[Kohburn]

the right hook shaped pry bar should get the prying done.

 

[rolling18]

update, GOT the pin to slide so can release the clevis!!! after PB and LOTS of tapping.

but im still not able to rotate the clevis easily because the flange for the PTO shaft is in the way BUT i can rotate it if i pry it past where it hits the flange..

so over all I claim this as a sucess!! if i remember right turning it out lengthening it (toward the front of truck) INCREASES free play.. and LOWERS engagement point.. ??