Deuce Vs Russian Counterpart

[Empty Pockets]

This post reflects a conversation I had at work the other night. I was talking to one colleague about my deuce and he commented that the Russian trucks he used when he served in the USSR were superior. I was wondering if any member has has had any experience with the deuce and their Russian counterparts? How does the deuce stack up? Thanks for looking!

 

[cattlerepairman]

Ok, well, I guess "it depends". Which truck does he have in mind to compare to the Deuce? He may or may not be right. The Russians..ahem..Ukrainians, more likely, did build some very usable 6x6.
Which pickup truck is better? A Ford or a Chevvy? Let's grab some popcorn.

 

[Empty Pockets]

My co-worker is originally from the Ukraine, however he could not or would not tell me the manufacturer or the model of truck. He couldn't tell me any specs about the truck either. The only thing he could tell me is the truck was a 6x6. He also kept laughing at the pictures of my deuce telling me how inferior it was. I don't know much about Russian vehicles which is why I started this post. I was just trying to see what others members take might be on the subject.

 

[mdmorganwife]

Sounds to me like he is full of crap if he won't tell you what truck he's comparing it to.

 

[John S-B]

Well let's see, built by the same industrial system that built the Yugo....

 

[quickfarms]

How is it superior?

What are the specs

I know a few people that think a particular thing is better just because it came from a certain country.

I certain situations the russian trucks may be better.

But we are in the US and it is probably a bear to get an english manual or parts for them.

Try finding someone to work on your russian truck in the average US truck stop.

The story would be a lot different with your truck or a 5 ton.

I think he is just talking and you can either play along or not talk about the trucks with him

 

[mdmorgan]

This post reflects a conversation I had at work the other night. I was talking to one colleague about my deuce and he commented that the Russian trucks he used when he served in the USSR were superior. I was wondering if any member has has had any experience with the deuce and their Russian counterparts? How does the deuce stack up? Thanks for looking!
My co-worker is originally from the Ukraine, however he could not or would not tell me the manufacturer or the model of truck. He couldn't tell me any specs about the truck either. The only thing he could tell me is the truck was a 6x6. He also kept laughing at the pictures of my deuce telling me how inferior it was. I don't know much about Russian vehicles which is why I started this post. I was just trying to see what others members take might be on the subject.

Show of hands, how many people drove something in the military and didn't know what it was or anything about it? Anybody? Hello? (tap tap) Is this thing on?

 

[John S-B]

 

[flighht2k5]

Aak him who won the cold war.

 

[HanksDeuce]

 

[Capriceii]

Maybe this one? About the same time period, almost the same specs.. ZIL 131 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[machinist75]

I work with a Vietnamese guy, he's about 40. When he was younger in Vietnam he said there were alot of 2 1/2 and 5 ton trucks left there. He worked at a lumber company and they Preffered the older u.s. Designs to the newer Russian trucks more reliable in the jungle. They would take out a few 5 tons early in the morning and cross over into Laos, he said that's were the good wood was. Knock it down with a dozer and drag it aboard with the winches and haul boogie across the border. I thought it was an interesting story.

 

[Empty Pockets]

I think the truck my co-woker is talking about is a Zil 131. He can't tell me any specs, there is a language barrier and his english isn't very good. He told me his was orderd to drive and he did. Oddly enough he drives a tractor trailer for our company. Any way the focus of this thread was to compare trucks, not focus on the lack of comprehension of my co-worker.

 

[velociT]

I'm guessing he was ordered to lie about the truck he was driving, too.

 

[wreckerman893]

Good to know that someone with so little command of the English language is operating a Commercal Vehicle on our highways.

 

[paulfarber]

Since most of the Soviet machinery is a direct rip off of our stuff I think that he may not realize that his Soviet truck may have had more in common with the US trucks than he cares to admit.

 

[rorybellows]

o, you beat me to it

 

[rorybellows]

Good to know that someone with so little command of the English language is operating a Commercal Vehicle on our highways.

theres a whole gaggle of 'em around here. that and africans. and the gosh darn canadian/pakistani, sikh, and indian drivers. always poopin out the hole they cut in the sleeper cab because they run three deep. all so rude, and drive JUNKY equipment

 

[lonegunman]

I doubt most GI's could tell you who made their deuce. Finding the name of the maker on most military stuff can be a bit tough. The Russians have some tough equipment, it lacks a bunch of American style luxury and is far from modern.

I wouldn't doubt for an instant they have a truck that can ford a deeper river, drive up steeper hills and plow through deeper snow and mud. They truck is probably made for some guys who are far less educated and poorer trained to maintain with ease.

No "better" than a deuce, but no doubt different and possibly more durable.

When I was in Iraq we found several russian copies of MEP-003's in use by Iraqis, they were a total clone and considering they got zero maintenance they ran decent.

 

[Zoyd AT1]

Ford helped the USSR set up a few assembly lines in the late '20's and '30's, with state department approval. According to a book called "National Suicide" in 1936 FMC shipped complete truck assembly lines to Gorky Avtomobilny Zavod and Pavlovo Avtomobilny Zavod. That's back when they were the enemies of capitalists like the USA and friends of the National Socialists. Of course lots more equipment was delivered to the Soviets after they shunned the NAZIs and became our allies around 22JUN41.

I was out in the desert of California's Imperial Valley on a bombing detachment in the mid eighties when I met an Army mechanic whose unit was camoflaged beyond our barracks for some event. It turned out that his unit was made up of opposing force vehicles. I asked him how it was to work on all that metric stuff and I was suprized when he told me that the equipment was all flathead Ford and pretty easy to maintain. Then I remembered what I'd read in high school about GAZ and PAZ.

Many major American companies have been prominent in building up the Soviet truck industry. The Ford Motor Company, the A. J. Brandt Company, the Austin Company, General Electric, Swindell-Dressier, and others supplied the technical assistance, design work, and equipment of the original giant plants.

His Russian trucks may just have been American trucks on the five year plan. Tell him that though and he may have a story to tell about buying or selling rope.

Zoyd, AT1 USN ret.