• Steel Soldiers now has a few new forums, read more about it at: New Munitions Forums!

  • Microsoft MSN, Live, Hotmail, Outlook email users may not be receiving emails. We are working to resolve this issue. Please add support@steelsoldiers.com to your trusted contacts.

Differences between 2.5 ton and 5 ton lmtv

Philzpinz

New member
3
0
0
Location
East TN
Other than their obvious size, what are the main differences? Why are there so few 1083s compared to the 1078s? Are most parts interchangeable between the two? Lastly, why would you select (or not select) one over the other? Thanks to all the valuable knowledge and resources on this site.
 

bikeman

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
2,894
501
113
Location
Ft. Bragg, NC
More of the 5 Tons are in use with sustainment/support units. These units are lower in priority to receive the upgraded/up-armored/up-armor ready trucks. The Army doesn't buy 100,000 trucks in one year, they'll by 10k for 10 years (plus a company can only manufacture so many).

There's also the possibility that the 5Ts are more often capable of being upgraded (aka later production/variants with heavier frames) vs. the 2.5Ts that the frame simply couldn't handle the upgrade.
 

Suprman

Well-known member
Supporting Vendor
6,861
696
113
Location
Stratford/Connecticut
Cab parts are mostly interchangeable. Rear axles are slightly different. 5 ton models have large aux trans coolers. Behind the cab on the tractor and hidden under the bed on the cargo versions. Higher HP on the 5 ton engine.
 

sigo

Lieutenant Colonel
Steel Soldiers Supporter
1,704
412
83
Location
Leavenworth, KS
Parts are supposed to be 80% interchangeable between the LMTV and MTV. GS.org says the Oshkosh contract was for about 12,000 FMTVs over five years. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/fmtv.htm

I figured we're seeing more 1st generation LMTVs surplused out because they were purchased as replacements for M35 trucks so they entered the fleet in greater numbers before MTVs. Thousands of M939 trucks were far younger than the M35s so most MTVs were contracted later than early LMTVs. Those early LMTVs are getting surplused out since they're older, and generally older trucks are the first to go. That's just my opinion based on pure speculation. I did have a conversation with the XVIII ABN G8 awhile back and some of the fleet downsizing efforts being discussed at Corps and above have come to fruition since then. Some of the other ideas he mentioned being kicked around DA thankfully have not come to be. However, as the Army continues to shrink and with some modernization efforts still chugging along, we'll see more rolling stock sent off to DLA disposition services (formerly DRMO).
 

sandcobra164

Well-known member
2,999
301
83
Location
Leesburg, GA
1 rear axle versus 2 rear axles is the main reason. Alot of interchangeable parts with exception of the early trucks. They were oddballs.
 

bikeman

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
2,894
501
113
Location
Ft. Bragg, NC
And there are still M939 series trucks in service now. When I left we had a BN with 900 series shelter trucks, they weren't slated to get replaced due to some SNAFU with TACOM. They got on the reset calendar but it won't happen until they deploy and redeploy again (ADA). That should be sometime in 2017 IIRC.
 
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website like our supporting vendors. Their ads help keep Steel Soldiers going. Please consider disabling your ad blockers for the site. Thanks!

I've Disabled AdBlock
No Thanks