FLU419 SEE HMMH HME Owners group

[Foxyjosh]

another one for you see guys, I have a buddy with one, he wants to buy an impact hammer attachment for it, to be able to turn big rocks into little rocks. is the back hoe boom a standard boom from a case back hoe or is it specific to the see.

It's a standard Case M35C Any Case dealer can get parts for the hoe.

The impact tools I have are made by Stanley tools. The hard part is finding the special hydraulic couplings for the SEE.

 

[patrol578]

Ok, jumping in with both feet here:

Owner: Constantine
Model: 419.101 SEE
Where: Western Massachusetts
Chassis #: sure, once I get the truck

 

[patrol578]

And a big thanks to General Hood for those diagrams (I was one of those guys he's talking about), and to Speedwoble for digitizing.

The reason I'm thanking them ahead of time is that I've just bought my SEE, and it's got that unmistakable symptom of Texas Rat Disease...no lights or gauges work.

This seems like a great forum and a great group of folks helping each other out. I hope to contribute what I can.

 

[73m819]

It's a standard Case M35C Any Case dealer can get parts for the hoe.

The impact tools I have are made by Stanley tools. The hard part is finding the special hydraulic couplings for the SEE.

The quick disconnects seem to be standard military items, they are the same as found in the mk15a1

 

[patrol578]

EDIT: deleted duplicate post

 

[General Hood]

Welcome aboard patrol578. Post photos once you have your SEE delivered

 

[The FLU farm]

It's a standard Case M35C Any Case dealer can get parts for the hoe.

The impact tools I have are made by Stanley tools. The hard part is finding the special hydraulic couplings for the SEE.

I think it's mostly an even more standard Case 580C. Finding the quick disconnects wasn't that hard. I can look up the numbers if someone wants them - or look at the numbers on the couplers on the hose reel, then pick the hose connection tread/size of your liking.

 

[Another Ahab]

Welcome aboard patrol578. Post photos once you have your SEE delivered

An added welcome also from here in Virginia.

And yes, we are partial to pics if you have any.

 

[BigBison]

FYI, I sold out of the electrical charts some time back. There have been a couple guys on the forum ask for a copy since. My failing memory recalls one of you scanning a PDF version to be made available. You may want to post up the availability of the PDF to help these guys out

I bought two, one was intended as a gift for a certain vendor who let me down big-time since; I'd rather give it away than sell it, to anyone who needs one and has/made a contribution to this community, PM me. I wasn't aware the General sold out until a few minutes ago, I'd prefer not to hoard!

 

[The FLU farm]

I was in my workshop with air tools and such....in the mud might add 10-15 mins...

Okay, did the deed on concrete. Now I'm curious how you accessed the rear tank brackets. It'd be easy if it wasn't for the muffler being inconveniently placed in the way.
I ended up loosening both straps, removing the bolts for the front bracket, then moved the tank forward and tilted it down as much as possible. It was still tight at the pickup line (the rear is the pickup, right?)

All in all it took about four hours, including replacing a fitting and using the ClampTite on the return's connection which was loose. Did it help? No.

 

[BigBison]

My issue regarding videos of how easy it is to raise the SEE's front wheels off the ground...

You're all on the level. But my SEE let me down in that regard at 30 below zero , tilted over on the side of a crowned road. Where it's parked right now and with the temps we've been having, yeah I could swap a wheel, no problem. When & where it was stranded with a real-world flat tire, I had to fetch the floor jack. The frame reinforcements which make a 406 a 419 put the whole truck as a side-load on the front loader on a sideslope as opposed to flat. Aside from all the cold-weather moaning and groaning normal for a 30-year-old chassis. Learn from my having to fetch a floor jack instead of scoffing at that (not that anyone has, just sayin'), at least until you've posted video of jacking up your SEE with its bucket while tilted 15* (mostly from the road crown, add a few * cause that's a tall sidewall gets squished down to nothing when flat on the downhill side).

I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying if you can, my SEE's likely in worse shape than I thought, I just want video of that? Also because the ability to operate non-level is the attraction with FLUs, afaic, especially the forklift load-rotate imho. I mean, like, yippee you can change a tire on a nice day on a flat paved surface. So can I. I really do want to see a vid of someone getting their downhill wheel lifted on a tilt, to even know if the problem I encountered was my own, or everyone's?

 

[911joeblow]

I pulled out the assembly from the tank while I was there to also make sure there is nothing else wrong like a rusted pickup tube.

Okay, did the deed on concrete. Now I'm curious how you accessed the rear tank brackets. It'd be easy if it wasn't for the muffler being inconveniently placed in the way.
I ended up loosening both straps, removing the bolts for the front bracket, then moved the tank forward and tilted it down as much as possible. It was still tight at the pickup line (the rear is the pickup, right?) View attachment 667813

All in all it took about four hours, including replacing a fitting and using the ClampTite on the return's connection which was loose. Did it help? No.

 

[911joeblow]

I would like the numbers and source as I cant get enough numbers off mine to figure out where to get them. Conversely they appear to be standard flat face couplers which if I knew the size could just order.

I think it's mostly an even more standard Case 580C. Finding the quick disconnects wasn't that hard. I can look up the numbers if someone wants them - or look at the numbers on the couplers on the hose reel, then pick the hose connection tread/size of your liking.

 

[The FLU farm]

I pulled out the assembly from the tank while I was there to also make sure there is nothing else wrong like a rusted pickup tube.

I had planned on doing that, but as you can see in the picture, there really wasn't enough room for pulling it out.

 

[911joeblow]

I pulled the tank completely out.

 

[The FLU farm]

I would like the numbers and source as I cant get enough numbers off mine to figure out where to get them. Conversely they appear to be standard flat face couplers which if I knew the size could just order.

Okay, I'll look them up tomorrow. MSC direct is a good source, but I generally get the males and females from different places, going for the lowest prices for each.

 

[The FLU farm]

I pulled the tank completely out.

Wish I could've done that. Did you really remove the rear bracket, too?
Had the tank sat just a bit lower on this SEE I could've slid it forward after only removing the straps. And could've worked on the hose connections without moving or removing anything.

 

[patrol578]

An added welcome also from here in Virginia.

And yes, we are partial to pics if you have any.

Not just "partial" but downright demanding at times, from what I've read!
And thanks for the welcome.

 

[jstark45xd]

My issue regarding videos of how easy it is to raise the SEE's front wheels off the ground...

You're all on the level. But my SEE let me down in that regard at 30 below zero , tilted over on the side of a crowned road. Where it's parked right now and with the temps we've been having, yeah I could swap a wheel, no problem. When & where it was stranded with a real-world flat tire, I had to fetch the floor jack. The frame reinforcements which make a 406 a 419 put the whole truck as a side-load on the front loader on a sideslope as opposed to flat. Aside from all the cold-weather moaning and groaning normal for a 30-year-old chassis. Learn from my having to fetch a floor jack instead of scoffing at that (not that anyone has, just sayin'), at least until you've posted video of jacking up your SEE with its bucket while tilted 15* (mostly from the road crown, add a few * cause that's a tall sidewall gets squished down to nothing when flat on the downhill side).

I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying if you can, my SEE's likely in worse shape than I thought, I just want video of that? Also because the ability to operate non-level is the attraction with FLUs, afaic, especially the forklift load-rotate imho. I mean, like, yippee you can change a tire on a nice day on a flat paved surface. So can I. I really do want to see a vid of someone getting their downhill wheel lifted on a tilt, to even know if the problem I encountered was my own, or everyone's?

I understand. I will see what I can do. Sounds scary though. Is it not possible to drive into a better position? The tire is already flat? Maybe a pic of it would help me better understand.

 

[Another Ahab]

Not just "partial" but downright demanding at times, from what I've read!
And thanks for the welcome.

Well, maybe we're just a LITTLE bit pushy...