Ft.Drum, NY

[Srjeeper]

Here's my pics...

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Enjoy........

 

[GamaGoatGirl]

Here are a couple of very short videos I took of Eric giving rides in the Gama Goat at Fort Drum.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7E-TFmxml0[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-cWT18-4Sg[/media]

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

Here are a couple of very short videos I took of Eric giving rides in the Gama Goat at Fort Drum.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7E-TFmxml0[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-cWT18-4Sg[/media]

Amy,
Thanks for posting up the videos!!!

I must admit though... I am just a little disappointed.... Your husband doesn't look at all the that ELVIS guy that he's been posing as in his AVATARs.

 

[Fredo Corleone]

Doghead

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

Not to "hijack" this thread, but to address the side-issue concerning HATS IN CEMETERIES.....
(If further discussion is spawned by this, let's move over to a new thread in the Chaplain's Corner please.)

A SteelSoldiers Member subscribing to this thread PM'd me, and with his permission I am going to attempt to quote that exchange here for the benefit who all now question CEMETERY ETIQUETTE.

WIKI (What I know is...):

Sir, I have a question and I believe you are in a unique position to answer. In the post about Ft. Drum there are pictures of people in a cemetery. I had mentioned that I was always told you should remove a cap or hat in respect. I did look up cemetery etiquette and there is no mention. What is the norm on this? I put this in a PM because I don't think it is a subject most would be interested in.

Thanks for this opportunity. Your choice of PM'ing is respectful so as not to be seen as a criticism of others.

Your question is a good one. There is no singularly difinitive answer.


Customs, etiquette, religious rites and rituals, respect, and the military code of conduct all play factors into the practice of removing your hat in a cemetery or at a grave site.


From the religious view, particularly from a Catholic or similar "orthodox" Christian doctrine, a man would be expected to remove their hat when in a place of reverence such as a church, chapel, outdoor mass or other service, at a grave site or even anywhere within the cemetery depending upon the degree of orthodoxy the individual chooses to practice. Many take some lattitude with this depending upon who is with them, whether a service is in progress, or even in consideration of the weather conditions. Catholic (and other) women, on the other hand, frequently cover their heads with a scarf or hat under those same circumstances.


However, those of the Jewish faith would typically wear their yarmulke (yah-mu-ka) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kippah in any place of reverence.


It seems that most American Protestants (particularly here in west Texas (lots of ranchers, cowboys and farmers), will remove their cowboy hats or ball caps once a graveside service begins, but are otherwise comfortable wearing their hats everywhere else in the cemeteries.


From the military perspective, when not in uniform, the proper way to SALUTE or show respect, is to remove the headgear, and in a patriotic setting, place the right hand (holding the hat) over your heart. When in uniform it is proper military conduct to remove your hat indoors, but to wear it at all times outdoors. Many uniformed military members (other than the Honor Guard) will also remove their headgear when a prayer is being said outdoors.


The old tradition of "tipping your hat to a lady" has similar roots to these.


Generally, the removal of the hat is seen as "exposing your head to God in heaven" with nothing between you and the heavenly spirit.


I suppose that the best answer I can render would be this: Explore your own individual faith and beliefs; consult a clergyman of your church or faith and see what rites and rituals your denomination practices; and decide what YOU believe is the right and proper thing to do.


As a deathcare professional, I honor and respect the traditions of any practitioner of their own beliefs. That does not mean that I particpate in their rituals, but that I do not judge theirs from the perspective of mine. In my heart - and frequently silently, never visilbly - I practice my own faith in a manner that should not offend those I professionally serve.


If you feel compelled to remove your hat upon entering a cemetery, then do it. If others do not, allow it.


If, you are a Christian, and ever have the opportunity to attend a Jewish funeral service, I would ENCOURAGE you to accept a loaned yarmulke and wear it. And to do so respectfully. Look at it as an Old Testament LIVING HISTORY esperience - You will be conducting yourself as Jesus and all of our Old Testament ancestors would have done before the days of Christ's first coming.

When the Rabbi recites prayers in Hebrew at such a service, he is using the very same prayers that we find in the first part of our Bibles, and in the same language that Jesus spoke. Absorb it. It is our heritage.

This is not to denounce modern Christianity, but to better understand the foundations of it. Jews and Christians alike believe the Old Testament.


Beyond this, there are many other rites and rituals associated with Buddism, Paganism, various American Indian spirit-based "faiths", Muslim, and other beliefs. I have simplified this to just a few of the more common. I hope this is helpful.

I had not yet read the referenced thread about Ft. Drum.... so here I go.


Best regards,
John

Thank you for allowing this minor detour.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

 

[m816]

Wow, the whole weekend was great. Thanks to the SS members and NYPENN and all the reenactors and especially Brian and Chris fo putting on such a great show. I am very proud of recieving the award. Everyone who brought a vehicle should have a piece of it. I am especially proud that Mike got to see a replica of one of the trucks his father served on before his untimely death aboard the "Brutis which was the sister truck to the Untouchable It made my wife and me as well as all the guntruckers and 539 vets very proud of the whole show,trailride and getting stuck to boot. I will probably never live that manuver down but it was great fun anyway. Thanks to all who participated. Vinny

 

[GamaGoatGirl]

Hey for those of you who had vehicles at the show, my friend has finished working on the pictures that he took of your vehicles. I am attaching the link to his website with the photos. He has it set up so you can purchase items with the photos on them such as t-shirts, coffee mugs, business cards, etc.
Steven J. Tryon Photography | Military Vehicles

 

[lindyp38]

thanks for pics..and vids.......

 

[vtdeucedriver]

Some of my pics from that weekend!!

1,) Mike Dahl, the son of MOH recipiant Larry Dahl in the back of a Gun truck where is dad once rode 40 yrs ago.

2.) Bob a Vietnam Veteran who served with the 359th Trans in 70-71 demonstrating the proper technique on how to relieve yourself via a moving 5 ton tractor.

3.) Bob behind the wheel once again of a tractor in 359 markings and his truck number 206.

4.) This 1970 or is it 2011???

 

[jatonka]

Jeff, did you forget anyone?

 

[vtdeucedriver]

Two months of E-mails and a couple of hours worth of phone calls so a owner of a Gun truck and the son of a Vietnam Vet could get together on a Fathers Day Weekend.................Cost, not be around for that day with my own dad.

11 years of harassment from Bob on when I was going to make a truck with 359th numbers on the bumper.................Cost, 3.95 for the can of white, 4.50 for the Semi Gloss OD.

363 Mi round trip to get the M52 there so Bob and some other Vietnam Veterans could see it and be apart of a Convoy with a Gun Truck painted up in the same unit............Cost, 290.00 in fuel and a sore butt of 10 hrs at 45 mph.

To make a Fathers Day weekend Complete for someone who last seen his dad when he was 4.............................Cost, A few Tears and when I found out from my wife that night that "I" was going to be a Dad, a few more tears.

To live hour by hour for 5 days laying Critical in ICU in 2010 and a miracle to survive so I could continue to help preserve some history, have a loving wife who was the RN that helped save my life so I could take just this ONE PICTURE of something I have read about for the last 15 years........................Pretty dam priceless to me!!

 

[vtdeucedriver]

Jeff, did you forget anyone?

I could never forget, you just jumped in at the right time

 

[vtdeucedriver]

Few more as I cant forget Bill and his great display!!! Not to mention I copied one of his chairs

 

[vtdeucedriver]

Now the pics

 

[papabear]

VTD...hope ya don't mind, but I posted the pic of Larry's MOH and his son in the UNTOUCHABLE on the Guntruck site.

 

[vtdeucedriver]

no problem larry