G749 preservation

[m1010plowboy]

Shifty

135GMC, do you remember your truck shifting aggressively 'down' from 3rd to 2nd?

After you ran hydraulic oil did the filter seem to collect any extra "junk" from the
trani?

I'll take the advice and try some 10/30 hydraulic once I run it a bit and let the 'new' straight 10wt non-detergent take some miles. She shifted better today but
it's pretty cold here and that might help. On the shift "up" from second to third, if I
lift just a little off the peddle it grabs 3rd at a lower RPM and shifts fairly nice.
I can 'catch' a smooth down shift from 3rd to second if I just touch the throttle
when it's ready to shift. We'll adjust the front band and governer settings and see what difference it makes. TM9-8025 has the trouble shooting tips and I'm on it.

Warm up procedure and NON-USE of High range reverse......DONE.

I love the TM info and especially 'exact' references like this one, TM 9-8024 page
59 #(2) when talking about 4th to 3rd..........."This is accomplished by depressing
accelerator pedal to stop, overcoming a slight resistance to completely depress
the pedal"........ FLOOR IT, almost!!!! funny!!

SuperDave helped bleed the brakes and we've talked for hours. He says it's quite a
kick on the downshift and I'm wondering if they're all the same. The difference
between his truck and mine is.....well.....everything. That beast is "NEW". He threw 7000 lbs of steel in the back and drove over the Coquihalla highway. Stan's
seen lot's of Fords and Dodges broke down on that pass. http://images.drivebc.ca/bchighwaycam/pub/html/www/1.html

I think this link should still work for Seatygrrrrr and those who haven't checked out a "restored M135". Click on the boxes on the left to see a very detailed M135 re-build.
http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/deuce/index.html



I gotta thank Steel Soldiers again!! Thank you. The bandwidth has allowed my

folks and family members to see the build progress. Thank you Thank you.


One one of the many searches, I came across this cool "Archived" SS link which is

mostly
G749 trucks all in one place.
The Early Deuce [Archive] - Page 3 - Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite


and one of my favorites posted here again and again.....M135 Airborne
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B64oKObCNfA[/media]

Onward

 

[Gunfreak25]

Dave, have you read this yet? It is by Tom from Alfa.

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/early-deuce/17023-hydramatic-heaven.html

 

[m1010plowboy]

Major Tom

No,,, Butch and I both missed it. It's the primary reason for cycling the information again...... finding more in-put from the guys that have been there. Out of the hundreds of pages of threads and TM's I'm in for a "major" certification in Trani
303M.

Thanks Gunfreak,

The term "Harsh" from 3 to 2, as described by both Tom and SuperDave, due to the 2 clutch pacs is almost uncomfortable. Certainly justifies the 'complaint' coming from the early operators. I'm not complaining........honestly a better ride then a new dually.

 

[135gmc]

Like any 1950's vehicle, it has a mind of its own. After a while, you'll learn how to play the gas pedal for smooth shifting. I never had any jerking on downshifts (in high transfer). When you learn how to lock the trans in gear by playing the gearshift, hills will be much easier, and speeds where the trans seems to hunt can be handled the same way. I never had much garbage in my trans, but my transmission was probably rebuilt not long before the truck was surplused. The TM is very good - it was written back when mechanics were expected to fix something and not just replace it. Try to track down the overhaul manuals if you can, especially the transmission manual. FYI: a friend of mine drove the GMCs and the REOs in Vietnam, and they hauled the ammunition in the REO, and hauled the howitzer and the cannon crew in the GMC because it rode so much better. He also said that the transmission was as tough as anything as long as you drove it by the book. My father had convoys of the GMCs in Korea where they piled 5 tons int he trucks and took off up the mountain roads with no problem - not fast, but no problems. He said that they would often run into a British convoy that couldn't make the hills, and they would tie their trucks on behind the GMCs and drag them up the hill as well.

 

[m1010plowboy]

"""My father had convoys of the GMCs in Korea where they piled 5 tons in the trucks and took off up the mountain roads with no problem - not fast, but no problems. He said that they would often run into a British convoy that couldn't make the hills, and they would tie their trucks on behind the GMCs and drag them up the hill as well.""""


Amazing..............These are the stories I love to hear.

We're going to keep at it until I get it right.....Thanks for all the tips!!

 

[Gunfreak25]

Not like you need to worry about a bad transmission with all those parts vehicles up there. Your a lucky man!

 

[m1010plowboy]

Canadiana

Yes Sir, luck certainly plays a roll when the green bug bites.
Another LUCKY 4 hours under the truck replacing slightly worn trani/throttle linkage pins and re-torquing every bolt.

I'm not lucky enough to have the throttle linkage gauge, bending tool, trani oil
pressure gauge or the adapter that screws into the top of the distributor to read
RPM but I'm working on it.

In the mean time I made sure all trani/throttle linkage was "firm" by lengthening the 'throttle to trani' link one turn with the coupler and what a difference.

Took another short run to a couple of photo ops with the M1010 and the 135 and the shifts are hitting the 'speed' marks and the 3rd to 2nd downshift changed drastically. Shifts are smooth and at a very comfortable RPM range.

Here's a few pics with the "M" team next to

1956 GMC M135 Deuce
1957 McDonnell CF 101 Voodoo
1958 Boeing CIM 10B Bomarc
and a 1972 737-200

Wayne Gretzky hoisting the cup.

Onward

 

[m1010plowboy]

Mo pics

M1010 and 1930 Ford
M1010 and Renegade Freightliner

and hopefully Wayne in the background hoisting the cup

 

[Stan Leschert]

Digger Dave, you will soon be in a competition with Super Dave for the nicest M135 around!

 

[m1010plowboy]

 

[Gunfreak25]

I'll bet it was tricky driving two trucks around all day. All that running back and forth.

 

[Superdave]

Looks a lot better now with the troop seats and bows

 

[m1010plowboy]

M135 Tailgate, seats and bows

Just missing tires and a nice canvas cover....eh SuperDave.

The truck looks great even without the canvas but something about that ' I'm ready for camping look' will need to be addressed.

The only remaining body panel is a tailgate. Rust ate holes in the bottom of the gate and our first step was to cut out the compromised metal.

The next step is learning to weld!!

 

[Gunfreak25]

Looks like fun! Gotta love metal work.

 

[m1010plowboy]

Picture of the week

The first Pic is a mini jeep, made in the USA, being driven by one of the finest MV
restore specialists around. If he was a girl, it would have been picture of the week.

Tempus Fugit

Instead of taking a two year welding program I had some great help offered by my son
and a friend and this proud Dad now owns a restored and preserved tailgate. Trying to
keep "preservation" in mind we hired a welder to fill the holes and repair the worst
metal. The boys finished up by laying down a thin layer of "USC All Metal" filler that will
stand up to the flex of the gate for 50 summers.

Tailgate Preserved

 

[m1010plowboy]

Plate, gate and two holes

Big1096, this plate's for you. The first pic is a Canadian license plate handed to me by a farmer as a gift to my Dad. It just happens to read 01096. I had to post it because it's just ironic that the only mil plate I've ever had has Bigs Number. Always wondered if it's 'legal' to have one in my possession or even on the truck.

TAILGATE

Stan's gate is the same as mine with two holes in the middle panel. Mine had a small bracket on it which may be a license plate bracket but really looks like it serves no purpose.

Is this 'original gear' or an aftermarket add on to hang laundry?

 

[Stan Leschert]

Re: plate. That one would have already been wiped from the system, so you can have it,
BUT you can't display it in a place where someone could think that it is the proper plate for the truck.

Ie; it can't be affixed to the truck, or even propped in the window.

Put it on a display board along with the technical specs of the truck for use in static displays.

 

[m1010plowboy]

Tailgate babysitting required

Thank you for the heads up on the plate Stan.

Still trying to solve the 'mystery piece' in the first picture. It was bolted on to the middle panel of the gate when I got it.

Making no assumptions......I assumed it was an add on broken, license bracket. Then I saw Stan's holes and realized I have something that Stan does not.

The piece does NOT look like it had an additional chunk of steel going horizontal across the top, typical of plate brackets. If it broke off, she made a clean break and getaway.

Performed google surgery on images M135 or G749 and probed the TM body panel sections but have not yet confirmed this has a part# or is part of the 'original' truck design. I'll dig through some more war era photos and would appreciate seeing anyone's back end.

 

[Stan Leschert]

and would appreciate seeing anyone's back end.

I'm not quite sure how to respond to this, Dave.

Are you batting for the other team now?

 

[Gunfreak25]

You guys will do anything to keep warm up there.