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brianrbull

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Not sure about the 400kw stuff but I gave $4500 for my 60kw on trailer with 30kw load bank. 3/4 tank of fuel, full oil, antifreeze. only problem was a burnt 24v alternator..... Remember the military rates its gens at 8000 feet and 125f so a 60kw is substantially higher and 3ph load only Good Luck
 

Carl_in_NH

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Gensets that large are atypical - with the 60 KW units much more common. I suspect one of that size would be a mighty thirsty beast. What's the intended application (if you don't mind) ?
 

Isaac-1

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I can't help you on 400KW exactly, however I can tell you that I saw a pair of 230KW industrial Onans sell for $6,000 - $7,000 each on GL near here last fall, the cheaper of the 2 showed 7,000+ hours on he meter, the more expensive was slightly newer same model with digital controller and unknown hours. I have seen the same model also show up with lower hours sell for over $11,0000, but have not closely paid attention to the exact ending prices. These prices were all for units that appeared cosmetically intact, I suspect the 400KW units would sell for proportionally higher amounts, although they rarely show up around here as surplus generators tend to fall into 2 generally groups, those that are small enough for individual use, say less than about 40KW and ones that are too large for individual use, say over about 40KW. The result is sort of a double price curve with the highest prices usually going to the sub 20KW units (I saw some very nice 10 year old low hour 12-15KW Onan commercial units recently sell in the $5,000+ range a couple of months ago) , dipping down again to a low in the 50KW range, then climbing back slowly for the larger industrial models as the majority of end users of these sets would never buy AS IS, these same users have traditionally avoided even buying used, so even resellers are hesitant to bid too much.


Ike

p.s. for one more data point for you, I bought a 30 year old very low hour, enclosed, 125KW Onan 125.0DYD off GL about 2 years ago for $4,000 for the family wholesale food business, it took about another $500 in parts, and a bit of tinkering to get running (biggest expense was a new controller board at over $300). Before winning this one, I watched several in the 125-150KW range sell for $6,000+, including the slightly newer 150KW Onan that was sitting right next to it. In retrospect see why that 150KW sold for so much more, it was just enough newer to get the controller that was introduced in the mid-1980's that was still in production a couple of years ago, had an engine with better parts availability, etc.
 

billwilson

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im looking for a couple smaller 60kw for my self i have a qouple consession trailers but the bigger ones i know people in the carnival biz who might be interested thanks for the help
 

Isaac-1

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How are your trailers wired? Whats your amp load, any motors, or just resistive heaters like deep fryer, etc? I ask because most of the (often trailer mounted) military surplus units in the size range your talking about tend to have reconnection boards that only allow for choosing between low wye or hi wye 3 phase power. Also it seems to me that a 60 KW generator, particularly a conservatively rated military unit is a bit big for a typical concession trailer.

Ike
 

billwilson

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i have 4 trailers i would like to run off of one 60 kw 3 of the trailers do not need much power (propane ovens) one trailer needs 100 amp service electric ovens and griddles. i would rather have more power than not enough
 

SCSG-G4

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100 amps is what a MEP-003 (10KW) is rated at. Do a search for 'wet stacking' before you get something as big as a 400KW - you will need a separate tractor-trailer dedicated to just it, and another one for fuel! Really sounds like a 15KW would power everything you are talking about.
 

Carl_in_NH

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I suspect he's talking about 100 Amp service @ 240V - not 120V (but as always I could be wrong); the MEP-003A is rated for 52A @ 240VAC single phase three wire. I don't know if that 100A is fully commited on that trailer or not, but I really suspect that an MEP-005 30KW unit would be more than enough.

Too large a genset really sucks down the fuel fast - because of all that generator and engine rotating mass that you really don't need for the application. Wet stacking is a further complication for one that's oversized for the load and water cooled. Experence has proven that picking one that is sized 'about right' makes one a happy camper in the long run.
 

skidunits4you

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I have a 225KW unit that burns 500 gallons every 24 hrs set up as a shelter power unit for the town . I would be very concerned about wet slacking if your going to run that big for a few food trailers.
 
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