gettin the pinion parking brake!

[Monster Man]

thanks for the heads up on the usa 6x6 pinion brake. Daniel over there advised that the pinion brake's not a good choice for straight braking on such a heavy vehicle, just as a good offroad brake. But, I will be getting their parking brake setup.

I aslo noticed the front axle is a bad choice since he said the rotor is 10" and that appears it will contact the oil pan (ruling out pinion brakes as well), so he advised I mount it on the rear. Will order soon, and rig up the cable and parking brake handle, maybe I can use the stock one but I'd like to keep that, maybe I can rig up a twin stick parking brake <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_approve.gif" alt="Approve">

stay tuned

 

[red devils dude]

Sounds good I am planing same setup(rear drive axle)ceep up posted on install

 

[Monster Man]

will do, just ordered the unit today. I'm going to try to work up the stock handle to operate BOTH parking brakes. Should work, right? And also eliminate the hassle of two handles and trying to find a spot to mount a new one without drilling <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_approve.gif" alt="Approve">

 

[red devils dude]

HHHmmmmm I think it will work I have worked on
a lift truck(fork lift) and the parking brake
looked just like the one on a deuce but 2 cables
so good luck.

 

[Loose Deuce]

This Park Break/Pinion Brake mod. is a neat idea and one I think I can afford, but looks like it could be damaged easy during off road manovers. It being on the front or rear, could come in contact with stumps or rocks you may not see in thick brush. going forward or backing up.<img src="emoticons/icon_smile_dork.gif" alt="Dork">

 

[hot rod deuce]

umm hey whats the purpose of the mod? is the stock e brake to expensive to repair? just curious.

 

[big mike]

i wouldnt say its expensive to fix, but it just doesnt work very well. i wouldnt trust it on any more than a 5% grade with out a wheel chock

 

[spicergear]

I hope I'm not stepping over any bounds here being new to the site...I'm not new to Rockwells and have dealt with Daniel and his company in the past with horrid results and an endless pile excuses and crap to the point that my order was never completed. Oh, and the 'NEW' rear 'bolt on' caliper mounts he's selling for his disc brake kit is mine. I made it up after he couldn't deliver and pushed me past a window. I stupidly called to cancel that remaining part of my over 3 month old order and told what an idiot he was for not doing as simply as I did. Stupid me told him. Stupid him tried to sell me a set of them a couple of months ago and I drilled him with, "...REMEMBER I'M THE GUY THAT TOLD YOU HOW TO DO THOSE...A SIMPLE BOLT ON BRACKET INSTEAD OF WELDING?!" "Ohhhh yeahhh, that was you. Thanks." Rackin frackin sonofa...!!! Just a word about that shop: pin him down on the delivery date. Pin him down good! I am not saying this because I've heard of this happening, I'm saying this because I took one in the pooper and got treated like an crap when I placed a $2000 order!

 

[red devils dude]

no worrys we got differential engineering inc and
Boyce Equipment.

 

[Monster Man]

hey guys, well, today my parking brake did show up, after a few weeks of trying to pin him down

after reading spicergears story I was quite worried and decided I needed to go on the offensive to get it here, but it's in my hands, now the real test is making sure it bolts on and isn't missing pieces! will take pics for the folks interested

 

[red devils dude]

I cant want<img src="emoticons/icon_smile_headbanger.gif" alt="Headbanger">

 

[rdixiemiller]

Just out of curiosity, why is the stock parking brake a problem? The brake on the rear of the tranny was standard on trucks for years.
You could take a page from the heavy truck book and use a spring locking brake pancake. You could use it to actuate one of the e-brake calipers that GM used on their full sized cars (via cable), and put the rotor between the driveshaft flange and the transfer case input flange. Since the deuce already has air, it would be a matter of gathering up the parts, such as the air brake valve.
I still don't see the problem with the stock parking brake, but I am not driving a deuce, yet.
Regards To All
Robert Miller

 

[Monster Man]

the stock brake is, well, OK on flat surface. That's about it. You can't tell if it's on while you're driving, until you smell it, and the drum on the driveshaft picks up a lot of rust and grime from the road, making it even worse. Mine needs adjustment, but I have to hold it in the all the way on position to hold the truck while I stick my chock under it and that takes some dexterity to get out of the truck while holding it. I just don't find it adequate to hold a 14,000 punds truck on about a 15 degree sloped driveway. I plan to run the cable for the new brake caliper up to the stock inlet in the cab and hook it to the stock handle. That way, combined with the stock brake it should hold well. I'm putting the pinion parking brake probably on the back side of the first differential in the rear. That way it's protected from all rocks and debrise.

 

[Monster Man]

and installed:


:smilewinkgrin:

 

[red devils dude]

yeaha :yeah:

 

[Desert Rat]

Nice work Lance! Looking forward to the pics!

 

[spicergear]

Monster Man or any others, before you dump the stock E-brake, get under there and have someone pull it to make sure that it's moving at all it's pivot points. You know...there ARE grease fittings on the E-brake. My stock cable was seized...like most so I got a new one. My stock E-brake shoes were seized up rock solid to the point that I had to heat and beat and twist them on their shafts until they finally came off. I cleaned up the shafts and holes and added a little extra clearance with sand paper and made sure that all the grease fittings worked. The thing works GREAT and that's with old pads! It will violently stop the truck like only a driveline break with big tires and double reduction slop can. Heh,heh. The double shoe design clamping inside and outside of the drum is very effecting and has a lot of brake area. I'd take a real good look at that before slapping on disc and a little caliper.

 

[Recovry4x4]

I'll have to concur with Tom. My driveline brake once locked will hold the truck on just about everything. I used it for lifting a 4000# trailer via the winch and a snatch block in a tree and it never budged.

 

[Monster Man]

oh no worries, that will be a second brake, and may actually help to slow the truck down by another foot in a panic stop if my brakes go, who knows. I will rig the cable for that onto the stock e-brake handle so they both engage. After tightening the cable up on my stock one, at full pull it will actually hold the truck on my driveway. But, it does creep over night so that in the morning I have to pull forward and pull the chock out from the tire.

 

[spicergear]

It shouldn't do that. You don't have a bad seal on the T-case rear output do you? Drum oily?