Help, threw rod and stuck in Rock Creek WY

[clpo]

Anyone near Rock Creek that could help with a down deuce? Need a safe place to park and help loading / transport to Ogden UT or Twin Falls ID. Had an instance of connecting rod vs engine block.

 

[Alredneck]

WOw, sorry to hear the bad news. To far from me, I hope you get it safely taken care of.

 

[clpo]

Thanks. Had just bought her and was driving home. I always have the worst kind of luck.........

 

[Alredneck]

As for safe ( safer ) places to park. I prefer rest areas and truck stops. If you cant find one near ya then next places are church parking lots, reason ussually have ample parking ability, most folks dont care if you are there as long as there is no service about to begin. When was the last time a church was robbed? It happens, yes, but not very often.

 

[quarkz]

I have used Snake river towing & recovery in Burley a few times, they helped with my 5 ton.
Phone: 208.878.4357 (HELP)
Snake River Towing | Towing service in Burley, Idaho and Jackson Hole, Wyoming
They are close to twin falls.

 

[GoHot229]

Might give Boyce Equiptment a call, their in Ogden. May know a Deuce owner willing to help you in a recovery in that area

 

[clpo]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I bit the $$$ bullet contacted Boyce and they are getting it towed to Ogden, installing new engine and I should have her home of Friday!

 

[frodobaggins]

You got the extra windows option !

Man, I feel for you and your wallet.

 

[4x4 Forever]

Man, I feel for you and your wallet.

Look at it this way, at least you will have a new engine!

 

[Snarky]

Man, this is the second or third deuce I've seen lately with a giant hole in the side of the engine... Making me a little worried....

 

[Blood_of_Tyrants]

As has been discussed before, the multifuel has many problems in longevity and ruggedness. Swap it out for a good used International or Cummins out of a school bus.

 

[GoHot229]

Yeowchhhh.... Well at least its safe now. Keep us posted on the affair. I'm hopeing Boyce are good guys, never heard anything to the contrary though.

 

[Snarky]

I just bought a transmission from Boyce, it came quickly, and was flawless, I would recommend them for your heavier parts, they price reasonable as far as I can tell.

 

[stumps]

What had you been doing with your deuce when it broke? How fast was the engine turning? What gear? Up hill/down hill? Stuff like that. Have you ever exceeded 2600 rpm? Lugged the engine hard?

In a White/Oliver tractor the same multifuel engine is considered to be a highly reliable tractor engine.... Of course in the tractor it is run governed all the time. It is unlikely to ever be spun too fast.

-Chuck

 

[ETHOS]

seems like a couple too many multi's popping lately..... definitely scary

so what is the main cause? rod/bearing failure?

 

[Trailboss]

I feel your pain brother, being left on the side of the road so far from home is not a fun adventure. There is a reason they had so many wreckers in service!

Everyone who drives one of these trucks a lot should think and plan ahead about what they would do if/when it happens to you. In my case, I discovered that at least one truck wrecker service does not accept credit cards or checks - CASH ONLY!

 

[stumps]

seems like a couple too many multi's popping lately..... definitely scary

so what is the main cause? rod/bearing failure?

In my experience, there are only two significant causes of rod failure. Both are frequently the result of abuse:

The first happens when you run the engine out of oil, or oil pressure. The rod bearing will seize and lock itself tightly to the crankshaft causing the rod to shatter from the bending load of the crank trying to push the rod sideways.

The second happens when you over speed the engine. In this case, the extreme force required to reverse the direction of the very heavy multifuel piston quickly, causes the rod cap to stretch. This opens the bearing tolerances to a degree that exceeds the oil pump's ability to fill the bearing space with a cushion of oil, and this newfound sloppiness in the bearing allows the crankshaft to hammer the cap (like a blacksmith) until the cap breaks open and allows piston to drop down. When the piston drops down, it, and or the rod, will get jambed between the moving crankshaft and the crankcase wall.

If the OP was tooling down the highway at an indicated speed of 60MPH, he was over speeding the engine, and could easily have caused the second type of failure. If he has an engine that burns or leaks significant oil, and the sump ran dry, or the oil pump failed, or the oil was old and clogged passageways, the first type of failure is likely.

It is interesting to us to know what was being done to the deuce up to the point of failure. It might save another deuce's engine.

-Chuck

 

[DanielP]

Sorry to hear about this. May I ask what Boyce charges to put a new engine in?

 

[m16ty]

Like others have said, Please post the speed and RPM you were running when the rod came loose. I'd also like to know what brand engine it was to see if some brands are more prone to this than others.

 

[wsucougarx]

Uh yah Snarky, I was beginning to think about the same thing. I'm just curious, are these rebuilds that are having these troubles or original engines? I know it probably doesn't make any difference but just curious. Plus how many miles did you have on this motor?