Help with id'n a crane unit

[MilitaryRestoration]

I've talked to a few members already about this crane that I'm saving up the bucks for and I thank them very much for their time, opinions and help. However we still have not been able to get it id and there are no data plates on it. Does anyone recognize this crane unit or know any more information on it?

 

[emmado22]

I'd say a crane off a M977 cargo HEMTT.. I think Grove made them.

 

[MilitaryRestoration]

kinda what I thought too but then again looking at pictures of them and comparing it changes my mind...i dunno

 

[rizzo]

can you make the pics smaller? I can't see them very well.

 

[MilitaryRestoration]

I didn't take the pictures... so can't sorry

 

[dma251]

That's not a hemtt crane. At least not off the M977. It looks like the same general design, but definite differences.

 

[BFR]

maybe a hiab 8001 off of a M983 tractor w/ crane? acording to the TM if that is what it is, it adds 7000lbs to the curbweight.

 

[MilitaryRestoration]

hmmm close on the m983 but i still dont think its right... maybe an older version.. I dunno I've searched and searched some look similar but not exact

 

[11Echo]

Made the pics larger.

 

[MilitaryRestoration]

ya helps a little, except distorts a bit, but does help. Thank You.... anyone got any suggestions on the crane itself... I've spent hours n hours searching SS, google, primeportal, etc and nothing. :-/

 

[11Echo]

ya helps a little, except distorts a bit, but does help. Thank You.... anyone got any suggestions on the crane itself... I've spent hours n hours searching SS, google, primeportal, etc and nothing. :-/

I went back and cleaned them up a little more.

 

[nk14zp]

Cant help with id but it would look better on my truck than yours!phaflinger?

 

[cranetruck]

This is what the FMTV crane looks like.
Joel, it's not a K-boom, so I'm 99% sure it's not a HIAB.

Edit: Added illustrations of crane from hemtt TM (M984) and MAN 10-ton truck. (Right click and open link in new window for hi res.)

 

[mudguppy]

i was thinking that it looks a lot like the hemtt wrecker crane, but i know that it isn't for two reasons: doesn't have enough sheaves and the outriggers are not correct.

my vote: if it's not a hemmt [cargo] crane, then it's a crane from a m1074 - PLS crane. i think... i haven't seen one in years, so...

 

[MilitaryRestoration]

cranetruck... that sure does look close , im just going to have to keep looking for exact
anyone have any ideas on the load capacity of the one in my pictures?

 

[mudguppy]

the hemtt wrecker crane is 16.7k at 4', but all the others are substantially less. i think in the 8 or 9k range.

 

[dma251]

Sure does look like that MAN 8x8 crane cranetruck posted. Isn't there any dataplate or builder info on the crane or outriggers somewhere?

I would call up Grove first and try to make friends with a tech guy and ask if you can email him the pics you have. They seem pretty helpful there from what I've heard.

 

[cranetruck]

Still digging for more info for you. Here is the FMTV spec and pics. The lifting capacity varies substantially with the extension of the boom. The FMTV is close to the HEMTT M985 Grove crane and can lift 11,000 lb at 7 FT.
For comparison my HIAB (avatar) has a capacity of 8,000 lb at 6 FT (or 16,000 lb at 3 FT).

 

[emmado22]

I know the M985 and M984 series HEMTT wreckers have bigger cranes than the M977 cargo truck crane..

 

[cranetruck]

More, there were two different cranes used on the M1013 and M1014 MAN trucks, I should have some images of the version used with the Pershing 2 missile system....

Edit: Added image.