Blythewoodjoe
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First off, I searched for hours on here to see if anyone had done this and found nothing. Found lots of threads with words like "hub, 5 ton, and stud" in them and wasted a lot of time reading through them. A lot of threads jump track. Anyway I have switch my hubs over to hub pilot or unimount and I wish I had not. I will explain why in hopes that I might save someone some trouble.
I needed tires and I plan to use my truck for work related stuff more so I wanted to get something easier to fix in a commercial environment. If I need to have a repair truck change out a tire I wanted something other than tubeless or two piece combat wheels. I decided to go with 22.5 tires. While asking around about wheels and tires I was convinced by some of the guys at Snyder (big rig shop) to look into switching to hub pilot wheels because those wheels are very plentiful. This is true but stud pilot wheels (bud) is more common than I realized before changing out my studs. I have not gotten wheels and tires mounted up yet but it appears I can use the hub pilot with out a lot of trouble.
So if you want to use 22.5 tubeless tires on your 5 ton, you can find steel wheels for around $35 each. Aluminum for around $150 and 22.5 by 13" or 14" for around $200 used. They are harder to find, but they are out there. Hub pilot wheels are very plentiful and about the same price. In my opinion there is no real advantage at this time to switch to hub pilot. In a few years that will change as the bud wheels dry up. But once you get your truck set up, all you have to replace is tires, so wheel supply is less important.
As I get tires and wheels on my truck I will post more about how it is working out. If I want to switch back I will just put the hubs off my spare axles on there. Here's a break down of cost for the switch:
Long 22mm studs: $4.20 each
22 mm nuts: $2.25 each
22 mm nuts with a short sleeve $7.20 each (optional)
With standard lug nuts it's around $70.00 a hub, $140 per axle. I plan to use half regular nuts and half sleeved nuts so that will bump them up to above $100 a hub.
Again, rims are out there so the switch was un-necessary. I have aluminum rims and I am working on a set or recaps for the rear and decent used or new tires for the front. My truck is a bobber. If you are considering going with 22.5's and don't know much, ask me. I am now painfully educated on them. I hope to have it sitting on new rubber in a week or two depending on which tires I get. I had planned to put 445/65R22.5 on all four corners, but the 22.5 x 13" wheels for the front are $400 each new and I can't find used one's near by so for now it will be getting 11R22.5's.
I needed tires and I plan to use my truck for work related stuff more so I wanted to get something easier to fix in a commercial environment. If I need to have a repair truck change out a tire I wanted something other than tubeless or two piece combat wheels. I decided to go with 22.5 tires. While asking around about wheels and tires I was convinced by some of the guys at Snyder (big rig shop) to look into switching to hub pilot wheels because those wheels are very plentiful. This is true but stud pilot wheels (bud) is more common than I realized before changing out my studs. I have not gotten wheels and tires mounted up yet but it appears I can use the hub pilot with out a lot of trouble.
So if you want to use 22.5 tubeless tires on your 5 ton, you can find steel wheels for around $35 each. Aluminum for around $150 and 22.5 by 13" or 14" for around $200 used. They are harder to find, but they are out there. Hub pilot wheels are very plentiful and about the same price. In my opinion there is no real advantage at this time to switch to hub pilot. In a few years that will change as the bud wheels dry up. But once you get your truck set up, all you have to replace is tires, so wheel supply is less important.
As I get tires and wheels on my truck I will post more about how it is working out. If I want to switch back I will just put the hubs off my spare axles on there. Here's a break down of cost for the switch:
Long 22mm studs: $4.20 each
22 mm nuts: $2.25 each
22 mm nuts with a short sleeve $7.20 each (optional)
With standard lug nuts it's around $70.00 a hub, $140 per axle. I plan to use half regular nuts and half sleeved nuts so that will bump them up to above $100 a hub.
Again, rims are out there so the switch was un-necessary. I have aluminum rims and I am working on a set or recaps for the rear and decent used or new tires for the front. My truck is a bobber. If you are considering going with 22.5's and don't know much, ask me. I am now painfully educated on them. I hope to have it sitting on new rubber in a week or two depending on which tires I get. I had planned to put 445/65R22.5 on all four corners, but the 22.5 x 13" wheels for the front are $400 each new and I can't find used one's near by so for now it will be getting 11R22.5's.